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Scana bans Confederate flag from company property
The State ^ | 8/15/02 | AP

Posted on 08/15/2002 3:48:26 PM PDT by PJeffQ

Posted on Thu, Aug. 15, 2002

Scana bans Confederate flag from company property

COLUMBIA, S.C. - Scana Corp. employees have been told to keep Confederate flag paraphernalia off company property.

South Carolina's largest utility also has ordered employees not to drive company vehicles to Maurice Bessinger's barbecue restaurants, The (Columbia) State reported Thursday.

Bessinger has been an outspoken Confederate flag supporter.

"Both the flag and Maurice Bessinger are divisive issues," said Scana spokeswoman Cathy Love. "For us to continue to be successful, we must have healthy, collaborative relationships with customers and co-workers. Divisive activities that disrupt harmony in the workplace are bad for business."

Bessinger said Scana's order was a "cowardly unconstitutional act."

"I have said before that one of our problems in trying to preserve our constitutional rights as a free people is simply a fact that the big corporations in this country have gotten in bed with the radical leftist NAACP and other pressure groups," Bessinger said Thursday in a statement.

Love didn't say whether Scana would fire workers for displaying the Confederate flag. She said any flag display "will be appropriately addressed by the company."

Scana, parent company of South Carolina Electric & Gas and other subsidiaries, has 5,480 employees, including 2,219 in the Columbia area, where Bessinger's restaurants are located.

Love said Scana employees can eat at Bessinger's during their lunch hour. But they'll be expected to park company vehicles off the restaurants' property. Vehicles can go on the property if Bessinger's restaurants have electrical service problems, she said.

It's not the first boycott of Bessinger and his distinctive yellow barbeque sauce. In 2000, major retailers, such as Wal-Mart and Kroger, stopped selling Bessinger's sauces because of literature offered at his Columbia-area restaurants, including one tract that suggests early Africans liked slavery.

In his new self-published book, Bessinger claims black Americans preferred segregation.

He has sued retailers who removed his sauce from their shelves, saying his products were dropped because of his political and religious views.

Bessinger also has drawn criticism for replacing the U.S. flag at his restaurants with the Confederate flag. That came after the state Legislature, under pressure from a boycott led by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, removed the Confederate flag from atop the Statehouse dome.

Although many state business leaders worked to remove the Confederate flag from the Statehouse dome, Scana's action moves the state's long-standing battle over the Confederate flag to the business arena in dramatic fashion.

Ike McLeese, president and chief executive of the Greater Columbia Chamber of Commerce, said the new flag ban might be an effort to head off further problems. McLeese said the company has had to deal with racial problems in its work force.

Earlier this year, a group of black SCE&G employees sued the company, saying it denied promotions to black workers and did little to counter racial insults and pranks by white co-workers. The company has denied the allegations.

Love said employee concerns triggered Scana's action, but she wouldn't discuss a specific complaint. She said the ban doesn't prevent workers from expressing views on their own time and away from company property.

"We are addressing issues related to Scana property, both at our physical work locations and regarding where our property goes."

The directives triggered outrage from a Confederate heritage group. Don Gordon, commander of the 250-plus-member Wade Hampton Camp of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, said his group may sue Scana.

"This is a freedom of speech issue," he said. "It has fallen to the Sons of Confederate Veterans to defend our liberty."

Information from: The State


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Delaware; US: Georgia; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: bessinger; confederate; flag; maurice; scana; sceg; scv
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To: southern rock
"Why not put the flag of Iraq or the swastika up?

Because those flags are not historical AMERICAN flags."

The Confederate flags represent a people that fought and killed loyal Americans. Private Citizens can show their ignorance, disguised as Southron pride, and display those flags. However, no government facilities should display them.
21 posted on 08/15/2002 7:20:46 PM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
The Confederate flags represent a people that fought and killed loyal Americans.

They also happened to BE loyal Americans. A hell of alot more loyal than the tyrant Lincoln who suspended the constitution and killed thousands of his countrymen. Sheesh! Let's not loose sight of who was in the right here.

22 posted on 08/15/2002 7:37:17 PM PDT by southern rock
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(Waiting for the obligatory "I love general sherman" picture)
23 posted on 08/15/2002 7:42:35 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: CIBvet; Vladiator; PJeffQ; southern rock; billbears; Twodees
The PC crowd will lose this one. We covered this a couple of years ago in Orlando. The diversity patrol thought they would fire this man b/c he had a CBF license plate on this truck.

OUC backed down after a potential lawsuit based on the 1st Ammendment/Freedom of Speech. Almost all the lawyers said OUC would lose this case in a huge way. I suspect it was rogue HR manager who made an irrational decision.

True to his Southern Heritage, Mr. Jones simply said all he wanted was his job back.

Original Story from FR - Read More

24 posted on 08/15/2002 7:55:03 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
drawn criticism for replacing the U.S. flag at his restaurants with the Confederate flag."

Well screw him then. Must be friends with Osama. Why not put the flag of Iraq or the swastika up? They both fought against the United States and killed loyal citizens of it too.

Did I see on another thread that you are a first generation American? Have you worn an American uniform? Did your dad? Your Grandfathers? All of my family did and I'm as proud of those who stood up for their rights in the South as I am the one at Valley Forge, New Orleans, Bexar, San Jacinto, Cuba, Normandy, The USS Cleveland ........

25 posted on 08/15/2002 7:57:19 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: PJeffQ
It is disgusting what has been done to Maurice Bessinger.

I need to break down and order some of that yummy sauce online.
26 posted on 08/15/2002 8:20:14 PM PDT by Leper Messiah
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To: southern rock
Please don't agitate Pittsburgh GOP Guy ... he is new to this country, and determined to villify something he knows not one damn thing about. If you provoke him, he will just put up a photo of Sherman, and talk anti-South BS.
27 posted on 08/15/2002 8:27:42 PM PDT by spodefly
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
To: Tancred

What has the % historically been? As a first generation American, I would be interested in that %.

12 posted on 8/15/02 2:07 PM Pacific by pittsburgh gop guy [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

28 posted on 08/15/2002 8:35:01 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: PJeffQ
"Both the flag and Maurice Bessinger are divisive issues," said Scana spokeswoman Cathy Love.

Wonder who's "feeling" the Love? Would anybody really want to.

29 posted on 08/15/2002 8:39:36 PM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
YAWN.

"Did I see on another thread that you are a first generation American? Have you worn an American uniform? Did your dad? Your Grandfathers? All of my family did and I'm as proud of those who stood up for their rights in the South as ..."

If you saw the other thread, you should have seen that I said that my father was in the Air Force when he met my German mom. And lets see, my brother was in the Army, my dad was in nam, his dad and grand father were in WWII and fought the Nazis. I got kin that were at Gettysburg and fought for the United States and killed rebel scum. And you can be proud all you want of your rebel/treasonous relatives - just don't hang any flag higher than old glory.

As for me, lets see, 6 years as a firefighter, and right now trying to get into the Marines. Not that it means anything, but since you brought it up, you said all your family wore a uniform, does that include you?

And if you rebs keep asking, General William Tecumseh Sherman will make a special appearance. I hear he is on the road in the South right now, doing some more redecorating, but I am sure we can find a pic somewhere.....I am glad some of you appreciate his efforts the way I do.

To my fellow freepers who are still fighting the Civil War - keep fighting - ya still lose!
30 posted on 08/15/2002 8:55:21 PM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy
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To: mlocher
it's a free country and scana can do as it pleases.
The fact that this IS a free country is exactly the reason why Scanna shouldn't be allowed to make such a decision as this. Or does the U.S. constitution not apply once you enter Scanna facilities?

Corporations try this BS all of the time. I bet you'd feel differently if you were Catholic and Scanna had declared that you had to remove that crucifex from around your neck before coming to work or if you were Jewish and Scanna declared that you could not wear your kippot in the office.

Corporations have absolutely no authority to suspend anyones god given rights and constitutional priveledges. In fact my company like many others specifically has a line in their employee handbook prohibiting any type of weapon on the premises. Well, I carry concealed to the office every single day, they can go stuff it! I'm sick of corporations who think they are some sort of global corporate manifestation above the law and out of reach of the U.S. Constitution. They are no such thing, if they are corporations in this country and they are publicly owned then the constitution holds just as true within their premises as it does anywhere else! To these corporations who dream of being a part of the liberl elite globalist economy and trample on our Constitution I say close up shop pack your bags and get the hell out!
31 posted on 08/15/2002 8:58:24 PM PDT by RebelDawg
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To: RebelDawg
"In fact my company like many others specifically has a line in their employee handbook prohibiting any type of weapon on the premises. Well, I carry concealed to the office every single day, they can go stuff it! I'm sick of corporations who think they are some sort of global corporate manifestation above the law and out of reach of the U.S. Constitution."

Don't go shooting no cop who tries to pull you over for speeding like that one guy did last week. Also - if your employer found out - they would have the right to fire your ass, and there is nothing you can do about it. If you live in an at-will state, they can cut you for any reason except the following:

Race or Color
Age
National Origin
Sex
Religion

Which are FEDERAL protected classes. Some states and cities have more protected classes. I don't think any would include "FIREARM OWNER".
32 posted on 08/15/2002 9:24:01 PM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
The Confederate flags represent a people that fought and killed loyal Americans.

Yeah, and Lincoln represents a people that brutally murdered innocent southern civilians.

Now if you don't like the confederate flag, don't fly one. But what business is it of yours to weigh in against others who wish to do so? And that includes supporting a company's decision to ban its employees from eating at certain restaraunts over their lunch breaks because those restaraunts happen to fly the flag.

33 posted on 08/15/2002 10:38:09 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
"Yeah, and Lincoln represents a people that brutally murdered innocent southern civilians. "

What is the color of the sky in your world?

Let it go - repeat after me: THE SOUTH WAS WRONG - THE SOUTH LOST - THE CIVIL WAR IS OVER.
34 posted on 08/15/2002 10:43:48 PM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy
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To: stainlessbanner
"True to his Southern Heritage, Mr. Jones simply said all he wanted was his job back"

What an exemplary act of Christian Principle in the finest tradition of a true Southern Gentleman.

I'll admit, I might have been tempted to go for the mad-dog laaw-ya and a comfortable early retirement.

35 posted on 08/16/2002 12:05:58 AM PDT by CIBvet
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To: Leper Messiah
Got a link to some of Mr.Bessinger's yummy sauce online?
36 posted on 08/16/2002 12:09:45 AM PDT by CIBvet
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
What is the color of the sky in your world?

It's generally a shade of blue unlike the industrial browns frequently seen in the urban cesspools of yankeeland. Let it go - repeat after me

Thanks but no thanks. Mimicing a fool does little good for one's own image.

37 posted on 08/16/2002 12:12:44 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: RebelDawg
I'm sick of corporations who think they are some sort of global corporate manifestation above the law and out of reach of the U.S. Constitution

i am too! if everyone who felt like you and i would quit their jobs (OK OK NOW is not the time), then these companies would have to rethink their thoughts. corporations are there to make money for the shareholders -- not to further some socialistic agenda.

i choose my own circumstances most of the time. i know the rules of companies and can either stay with them or leave them. it is my choice. no government should be strong enough to place rules on companies. if the workers and shareholders knew what was going on and had the backbone to act, these companies would straighten out right away.

besides my k-mart example, i toss out martha stewart as another example where shareholders have strongly spoken against her criminal acts.

38 posted on 08/16/2002 4:58:26 AM PDT by mlocher
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
Private Citizens can show their ignorance

You certainly are doing that.

39 posted on 08/16/2002 5:01:58 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
If you saw the other thread, you should have seen that I said that my father was in the Air Force when he met my German mom

Ah so you have a Nazi heritage. I imagine that is worse than a Confederate heritage. Right?

40 posted on 08/16/2002 5:04:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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