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The disunited states
Townhall.com ^ | August 15, 2002 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 08/15/2002 11:23:35 AM PDT by gubamyster

August 15, 2002

As more information from the 2000 Census is released, it's increasingly clear that this is not our parents' country. Ethically, it stopped being their country in the 1960s. Ethnically, it now resembles not a united nation, but a United Nations, with divisions along class, racial, religious, language and ideological lines. Our national motto, E pluribus unum ("out of many, one,") no longer applies.

Census figures show that one out of every nine residents is now foreign-born. The response from politicians? Many are signing up for Spanish lessons. They should be telling immigrants to sign up for English lessons.

Yes, we are a nation of immigrants. There is a difference, however, between the way immigrants were treated a century ago during the Great Wave, and how they are treated today.

Then, they were expected to become part of America, which included speaking our language, knowing our history and respecting our traditions. Now, they are allowed -- indeed, encouraged -- to remain who they are and not bother to learn English or care about American history. Then, we sought to make Americans of immigrants. Today, we hyphenate their citizenship and tell them they may continue to bear allegiance to other countries and causes.

Here are only a few examples of how bad the situation has become: The safety video on the Delta Shuttle between Washington and New York is delivered in both Spanish and English; this November, Denver and several other Colorado counties designated as bilingual counties must print election ballots in English and Spanish; the Department of Justice has ordered Harris County, Texas (which encompasses Houston) to start providing ballots and voting materials in Vietnamese.

Part of the reason for this forming of a less perfect union is that we are no longer sure of ourselves. Embarrassed by our success and riches, we think we're doing the world a favor by engaging in self-flagellation, refusing to repeat for the next generation what was handed to us by the previous one.

A Texas schoolteacher wrote to express his frustration:

"We were raised with 'ultimate consequences' which would dictate punishment when there was no discipline ('When your father gets home...,' 'Your mother wouldn't approve of this...')," he noted. "Now, it's a question of how people can beat the law, rather than uphold it." This especially applies to those immigrants who have seen that if they can get to America illegally, their chances are good of winning amnesty and remaining in this country.

King Solomon warned: "Where there is no vision, the people cast off restraint" (Proverbs 29:18). The casting off of restraint is what characterizes us now, from corporate boardrooms to private bedrooms. If immigrants know only how to get here and do not learn what made America so attractive to them, they will live by their own standards, just as we who were born here are doing in increasing numbers, further undermining our strength and cohesiveness.

In his 1992 book, "The Tyranny of Change: America in the Progressive Era: 1890-1920," John Whiteclay Chambers wrote of the great immigration wave of a century ago, noting that a majority of arrivals in this country never intended to stay. Many hoped that "after a few years of work, they could save enough money to return home to an improved position for themselves and their families."

"Although the majority of new immigrants permanently settled in America, a significant number left (with a departure rate of 35 percent for Croatians, Poles, Serbs and Slovenes; 40 percent for Greeks; and more than 50 percent for Hungarians, Slovaks and Italians; the rate among Asian immigrants was much higher, more than two-thirds)," Chambers wrote. Today the departure rate is only about 15 percent and anyone who gets here, even illegally, can now expect his or relatives to legally follow.

Many of those who stayed a century ago had poor skills and became part of large ghettos in major urban areas, where poverty continues to drain human and financial resources. The 1990 Census indicated that ethnic enclaves were huge and growing. In the city of Miami today, about half of the population speaks English poorly or not at all, new census figures show, and 74 percent of residents speak a language other than English at home.

A source for additional facts about how we have failed to assimilate immigrants can be found on the Web page of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (www.fairus.org/).

It would help if we would re-discover what once was considered "self-evident" truths about America, disdaining relativity. If we can't do that for those already here, we will be of no use to current and future immigrants and cannot sustain ourselves as the United States.


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To: discostu
Lawmakers to study border health issues
By Gary Scharrer El Paso Times

Texas lawmakers will visit El Paso and other border communities this year in an effort to highlight some of the more dire health conditions that some say will get even worse if health care is not protected from budget cuts.

Five or six House members from non-border districts will be in El Paso today and Wednesday. Others will follow to El Paso, Laredo, McAllen, Brownsville and Del Rio in the months ahead.

“It’s an effort by the Texas Medical Association to keep the scalpel off of Medicaid cuts,’’ said Dr. Wm. Gordon McGee, chairman of El Paso’s Border Health Institute and a former president of the Texas Medical Association. “Historically, they balance the budget on the back of Medicaid.”

Cutting Medicaid, McGee said would create a disaster for border communities because low-income families who lose Medicaid coverage will end up in emergency rooms for costlier health care. That will hit property owners already struggling in low property value border communities, he said.

“This is our attempt to bring key legislators ... to Thomason, to the emergency room, to clinics, to colonias and to let them hear from doctors - why they don’t come out here to practice and why they’re leaving - and to get legislative support to maintain the Medicaid service levels,’’ McGee said.

El Pasoan Martha Aragon said El Paso can’t afford cutbacks in health care because the community already has the most uninsured residents of any large city in the country. “Health care is about investments and expenses. Keeping people healthy and out of the emergency room is an investment,’’ said Aragon, a member of San Juan Diego Parish and a leader for the El Paso Interreligious Sponsoring Organization.

301 posted on 08/20/2002 8:28:50 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: discostu
You don't really see the health care disaster along the Canadian border with Canadians coming over to get free health care in the US. No one who cannot afford health insurance should be moving into the US, we're losing to Socialists very quickly here. You don't see these immigrants demanding to pay their own way much.
302 posted on 08/20/2002 8:31:26 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Phillip Augustus
Ok from the World Bank:

GNP per capita

Belarus: $2,990
Ukraine: $700
Romania: $1670

And finally......

Mexico: $5,070
303 posted on 08/20/2002 8:37:08 PM PDT by Classicaliberalconservative
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To: FITZ
What?! Canada has socialized medicine, they already get it "free" (paid for by tax dollars isn't free, but most people aren't smart enough to see that). So of course they wouldn't stream across our border.

Now how are people supposed to afford health insurance when they don't have a job? I was 25 before I got a job that gave me insurance, should I have been deported? Arguably if i didn't get it free from work I wouldn't be able to afford it myself, should I be deported? According to the socialized medicine buffs 100 million people in this country are uninsured, should they all be deported?

I see the immigrants paying their own way ALL THE TIME. Maybe you're just looking in the wrong place. Or your full of crap. I think it's the latter.
304 posted on 08/21/2002 8:17:44 AM PDT by discostu
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To: FITZ
Ooh look, Medicaid, a form of socialized medicine we shouldn't even HAVE in the first place, used by poor people who were born here amungst others, is running out of money. Three words:
Big
F@$#ing
Deal

Notice immigrant aren't mentioned in the article at all. Contrary to popular belief on these threads there are native born Americans whose lineage has been here many gnerations that are poor.
305 posted on 08/21/2002 8:21:44 AM PDT by discostu
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To: discostu
Oops, gotta watch the @ Sorry for the "mail to" link kids.
306 posted on 08/21/2002 8:22:56 AM PDT by discostu
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To: Poohbah
Home is were I am so there is nowhere for me to go away to :)
307 posted on 08/21/2002 1:06:30 PM PDT by Jamten
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To: Poohbah
I most certainly will.
308 posted on 08/21/2002 1:07:32 PM PDT by Jamten
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To: Tall_Texan
Maybe you should come and take a look in my office and
that would change your mind real quick.
309 posted on 08/21/2002 1:17:33 PM PDT by Jamten
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To: Poohbah
The country I came from is full of even worse silly liberals like yourself so why on earth should I go there? I thought the USA contained at least some real people that understand what is going on in the world and do not whine everyday about true conservative poeple that try and do something about the situation rather then whine like you do all day.
Go back to the hole you came from in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
310 posted on 08/21/2002 1:48:06 PM PDT by Jamten
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To: FreedomFriend
I have noticed this from my American coworkers too who are
second generation immigrant and hence indeed Americans. They hardly speak English. They dream of going back to where their parents came from and they are inherently Anti-American. This really disgusts me.
311 posted on 08/21/2002 2:00:29 PM PDT by Jamten
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To: Jamten
The country I came from is full of even worse silly liberals like yourself so why on earth should I go there?

Look, you show up griping about how lousy you have it at your job. You can expect to get told to stop whining.

I thought the USA contained at least some real people that understand what is going on in the world and do not whine everyday about true conservative poeple that try and do something about the situation rather then whine like you do all day.

OK, buddy: if you're going to whine about people not speaking English, kindly learn the language yourself.

Go back to the hole you came from in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

OK, in addition to English, you need lessons in spiritual discernment, as well.

312 posted on 08/21/2002 2:10:33 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Jamten
I agree, and I think that the human condition of people wanting to live around individuals who look, think, and act like them plays into this. Thus, this is the reason why I think that immigration needs to be seriously limited and the bulk maintained to Europe and the west.
313 posted on 08/21/2002 2:15:32 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: Poohbah
This is America, we do not have to learn other languages, especially when non-citizens or newcomers do not want to be respectful to our language, customs and tradition.
314 posted on 08/21/2002 2:20:02 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: FreedomFriend
Do you know that most people in Europe speak up to three languages and this is not just the educated classes. In China one can expect someone to speak up to four dialects; these dialects btw are as different from each other as Spanish, French and Italian are from each other. The educated classes all speak English throughout the world. This "we do not have to learn other languages" attitude is uncouth, ignorant and just plain silly, particularly in our global economy (which I know you oppose). Anyway I am fluent in English, semi fluent in speaking two dialects of Chinese, I have a reader knowledge of Spanish and I am currently studying German. :)
315 posted on 08/21/2002 5:27:25 PM PDT by Classicaliberalconservative
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To: Classicaliberalconservative
This "we do not have to learn other languages" attitude is uncouth, ignorant and just plain silly, particularly in our global economy (which I know you oppose).

You just revealed your liberal self. Someone is ignorant because they do not want to learn another language in their home country? What a bunch of nonsense.

Global Economy? Oh yeah, so much for the United States. I'd imagine that you'd be perfectly okay with the dissolution of our borders and America in general.

I'll give you this, you pass your dislike of America-first policies off as being "enlightened". However, all it reveals to me is that you're in favor of policies and ideas that will sink America fast.

316 posted on 08/21/2002 8:12:50 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: FreedomFriend
Exactly how will learning foreign languages sink America? An educated population will if anything help us out.
317 posted on 08/21/2002 9:36:20 PM PDT by Classicaliberalconservative
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To: Classicaliberalconservative
It's not a matter of education but a modern day Tower of Babel. It's a matter of multiculturalism and cultural and linguistic heterogeneity.
318 posted on 08/21/2002 9:37:59 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: FreedomFriend
I really do not see how me knowing 4 different languages is going to rnd up destroying our country. Meanwhile there are many poets and authors who are from non English speaking cultures and yes the beauty of their works are lost somewhat through translation. Goethe, Confucius, Voltaire, the Ramayana, the Aeneid etc. A cultured man should be fluent in at least two languages. I am working on it myself.
319 posted on 08/21/2002 9:43:44 PM PDT by Classicaliberalconservative
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To: Classicaliberalconservative
Okay. If one wants to learn another language on the side, that's okay. I'm talking about four different languages being spoken by four different groups. Thus, a Balkanization styled country with no defining language. That is dangerous to America.
320 posted on 08/21/2002 9:49:25 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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