Smokers - common sense questions

FOX | 2002 | several

[Axenolith]

Smoking is very bad for your health!

No kidding? Who woulda known sucking the combustion products from burning leaves into your lungs was bad for you??? Go figure...

Smoker's shuld pay more because they are more sick!

No, they are not demonstrably a higher governmental cost demographic...

[brat]

Go to yesmoke.com....my Camels cost me $14.95! REBEL! If you can't get people to storm their capitals on the issue, at least spread the word on the given site so we can tell the gov we aren't going to take it anymore! Don't give them a thin dime in taxes...let them hit someone else for a change...how about exercise equipment? LOL

[brat]

Go to yesmoke.com. I get my FILTERED Camels for $14.95 per carton delivered to my door. Beats generics, beats hand rolled if you are a filter tip smoker and it beats giving the government ONE RED CENT!

[brat]

Why do nonsmokers think they have the right to bash us constantly? I'd rather go to hell with smokers than heaven with nazis like you. And why do nonsmokers constantly pollute our outdoor ashtrays with their soda cans and messy candy wrappers...inconsiderate, don't you think?

[185JHP]

Nicotine is a powerful drug. Powerful drugs can lead to people doing foolish/selfish things. BTW how do you like the "not in a bar" gambit re bans? Is this a moral equivalency argument? "alky users are evil, too - how dare anyone say you can't do both in the same place!"

[WaterDragon]

Like, we're supposed to believe those pols really worry about our HEALTH? Give me a break!

[brat]

Peer pressure? What peer pressure? I don't consider self righteous smoking nazis my peers. Everyone has a vice...we should do a survey of NON SMOKERS and find out what their favorite vice is and lobby to TAX the H out of it in direct proportion to the rise in tobacco taxes.

[brat]

We're no more sick than anyone else...in fact, I'm healthier than most of my non smoking friends. Our tax money is raised because of the so called cost on health care by the smoker, yet none of it goes to pay for that health care. We pay for roads, the handycapped, autos, etc.

[this_ol_patriot]

LOL
I guess they'll be ordering those Russian made Twinkies soon.

"Don't worry comrade, we did run out of creme filling but we found something else just as good."

[ninenot]

Sorry to have mis-read your post. I think, however, that your call for Corps to lead the charge will be ignored.

The Boston Tea Party scenario looks better to me.

[ninenot]

Is it a given that I will die a painful death because I smoke?

Actually, it no longer makes ANY difference how you die.

The smoke-Nazis have jiggled the statistics--so that, for example, if you drive into a freeway abutment at 100 mph and die (duh...) but have a pack of cigarettes in the car, IT'S SMOKING RELATED DEATH.

Yup.

[Kozak]

I wonder if a website with "grow your own" supplies, seeds lights, info etc( I'm talking tobacco here folks!)would be a money maker?

[I'm_With_Orwell]

The other thing that bugs me about the whole smoking thing is that the death rate has stayed fairly constant at one per person.

Classic, Kimball. Absolute classic!

[Godebert]

yesmoke.com

[SheLion]

Why should the government pay medical expenses (which comes from taxpayers) to treat a disease you could have avoided?

Prodigal Son, I just want to SLAP someone when they make the above statement about non smokers paying for OUR health care! This is directed to mrfixit514:

Starting from the top, YOUR taxes do no such thing. In fact, MY taxes, and those of every other smoker in this country, pay for YOUR ill-advised habits such as overeating. In 1994, the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service spent 22 months and 20 million dollars--at the request of rabid anti Henry Waxman, no less--to determine just how much money smokers cost society. Guess what:

Smokers DO NOT COST SOCIETY. We pay in to the system far more than we ever take out. You should be paying US to smoke, dude. The New England Journal of Medicine concurs, as do economists from Yale and Harvard, and the CRS reiterated that fact in 1999. (I'll be happy to supply you with links to those studies if you like.)

Since your premise is wrong and can be proven wrong, and in fact smokers DO pay 100% of the problems our habit "causes," and since the science of shs is absolute junk and that can be proven as well.

Also, most of us have our OWN health insurance, thank you! And the tobacco settlement money was supposed to pay for any sick smokers on welfare, should there be any, but the states decided they needed to use that money for roads and laptops and little pet programs. So don't tell ME that you are paying OUR health care!

[SheLion]

Why do smokers think they have the right to pollute the air that non-smokers breathe?

Max, this one too, is directed to mrfixit514:

Your worried about second hand smoke? Well, if your in a city, standing at the corner waiting for the light to change so you can cross, think about sucking in all those fumes from the passing buses, taxi's and cars!

If you want to move to rural Maine, then you will have to sit with surrounding farm fields with the farmers spraying peticides several times a summer! And your worried about a wisp of SECOND HAND SMOKE? IT'S NOT MUSTARD GAS, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. GROW UP.

[SheLion]

CHA CHING! You have won a Kewpie doll!!! What do you want to bet that this will probably be one of the arguements to tax online purchases?

I went to bed too early last night. heh!

Well, the government and the FEDS are going absolutely NUTS trying to figure out how to get taxes from the NET! It won't be an easy task, you can count on it.

And they just can single out sales over the Net from tobacco without nailing EVERY one who sells ANY thing over the net! hehe!

[SheLion]

Quote 2, "Boys, this town needs an enema!"

[SheLion]

Cigarettes are deadly. We all know folks who have died from them

Sex will kill you. You going to stop sex too? Fatty foods and red meat will clog your heart. You going to stop eating, as well?

Personally, no one in MY family died from smoking! All but one grandmother smoked. She died of cancer at age 42. Never smoked a day in her life. My other grandmother smoked "3" packs of Camels a day, died at age 86, from natural causes.

No, no one in our family died from smoking. My belief is this: when it's my time to go, the Good Lord will care less if I smoked or not.

[SheLion]

in fact, I'm healthier than most of my non smoking friends

AMEN! Same here with my hubby and me. We are in really good health. I go to the Doctor once a year for my check up. Can't beat it! And I've been smoking since I was 16 years old.