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To: Can i say that here?
i'll hang up and listen.

Ok, but please turn pyour radio down... lol.

Could you tell my by what authority rights are granted?

We grant ourselves our own rights, based on our own conceptions of morality.

210 posted on 08/12/2002 3:48:03 PM PDT by andy_card
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To: andy_card
We grant ourselves our own rights, based on our own conceptions of morality.

And the Nazi's granted their own rights, based on their own conceptions of morality. Yet you take issue and seem to imply that they were wrong.

214 posted on 08/12/2002 3:52:25 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777
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To: andy_card
I now believe you when you say you have no ideology.
216 posted on 08/12/2002 3:55:04 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777
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To: andy_card
We grant ourselves our own rights, based on our own conceptions of morality.

I guess my question is, to what authority do we appeal that guarantees that our rights (life, liberty, etc.)are enforced? If we are forced to appeal to ourselves, then our ability to have rights ends at our ability to enforce them doesn't it? If we determine rights as a collective group then the right to life only exists if the society you live in agrees. If our society says yes and another society says no, are our lives worth more than theirs? It's all so confusing....
276 posted on 08/12/2002 5:08:40 PM PDT by Can i say that here?
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