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We grant ourselves our own rights, based on our own conceptions of morality.

I guess my question is, to what authority do we appeal that guarantees that our rights (life, liberty, etc.)are enforced? If we are forced to appeal to ourselves, then our ability to have rights ends at our ability to enforce them doesn't it? If we determine rights as a collective group then the right to life only exists if the society you live in agrees. If our society says yes and another society says no, are our lives worth more than theirs? It's all so confusing....

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I guess my question is, to what authority do we appeal that guarantees that our rights (life, liberty, etc.)are enforced?

The Supreme Court?

If we are forced to appeal to ourselves, then our ability to have rights ends at our ability to enforce them doesn't it?

That's true. As a political prisoner in the Lubyanka, you could have complained about your infringed "inaliable rights" to your heart's content. You'd be shot just the same.

If we determine rights as a collective group then the right to life only exists if the society you live in agrees.

That's also true. But a society would be insane to refuse to endorse a right to life.

If our society says yes and another society says no, are our lives worth more than theirs?

To us they are. To them, no. It all depends on your perspective.

It's all so confusing.

Amen.