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To: ward_of_the_state
Actually I'm not arguing against science here. The post that provoked my rejoinder was something like "Christianity has been useless for 2000 years" or whatever. Well, atheism slaughtered 180 million people in the past eighty years alone. Yep, eighty years. The best estimates of the number dead in Christendom over the last two millennia, in both offensive and defensive wars, is 4.5 million persons.

Atheism kills. That's my point. As far as crevo/evo, I'll leave that to the scientists (I'm a fan of Dembski's ID, but the jury's still out).

18 posted on 08/11/2002 12:07:04 PM PDT by HumanaeVitae
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To: HumanaeVitae
No, no - I didn't think you were arguing against science. But just as sure as you post your thread, there will be a creationist or two lying in wait to flame you. I'm trying to head 'em off at the pass! I don't have a whole lot of use for atheists, either.
19 posted on 08/11/2002 12:14:11 PM PDT by ward_of_the_state
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To: HumanaeVitae
Atheism kills. That's my point.

No, moral collectivism kills.

Meanwhile, atheism (or at least methodological naturalism - looking to nature for answers about the natural world) has saved millions of lives, increasing the average lifespan by 50% in the last 100 years.

22 posted on 08/11/2002 3:39:25 PM PDT by jennyp
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To: HumanaeVitae
The best estimates of the number dead in Christendom over the last two millennia, in both offensive and defensive wars, is 4.5 million persons.

Better beef up your "best estimates." The Spanish may have killed at least that many Incas alone.

27 posted on 08/11/2002 7:14:46 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: HumanaeVitae
The best estimates of the number dead in Christendom over the last two millennia, in both offensive and defensive wars, is 4.5 million persons.

This is a joke, right? Please define "Christendom," because I fear your definition might be a little constrictive.

137 posted on 08/12/2002 1:03:43 PM PDT by andy_card
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To: HumanaeVitae
The Christians got at least that many during the Thirty Years War.
139 posted on 08/12/2002 1:08:58 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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