[jennyp]

Atheism kills. That's my point.

No, moral collectivism kills.

Meanwhile, atheism (or at least methodological naturalism - looking to nature for answers about the natural world) has saved millions of lives, increasing the average lifespan by 50% in the last 100 years.

[HumanaeVitae]

Really.

So, putting club to skull is morally equivalent to not finding cures for diseases, eh?

Are you sure you want to defend that thesis?

By the way, I believe Newton was a Christian. Pascal as well. Anyway, any more hamfisted jabs?

If you're going to bring up the history of the Catholic Church etc., fine, I'll own up to Torquemada and the Inquisition, Galileo's suppression, and so forth. As a Catholic Christian I own that.

But guess what--as an atheist you OWN the Great Leap Forward (80 million dead), the neo-pagan Holocaust, the Cultural Revolution (20 million dead), Pol Pot's atrocities, the Stalinist purges, and on and on and on. Same ideas, same results.

By the way if you're going to come at me with Objectivism, which it sounds like you're going to ("moral collectivism"), good luck.

[HumanaeVitae]

No reply. Of course. Guess it's pretty tough to defend the idea that when pharmaceutical companies refuse to give their products away for free they're commiting "murder". Yep. See previous posts and think about it.

Atheism: the Big Lie of the 20th Century.

[f.Christian]

To: Dimensio

As I see it, evolution is an ideological doctrine. If it were only a "scientific theory", it would have died a natural death 50 - 70 years ago; the evidence against it is too overwhelming and has been all along. The people defending it are doing so because they do not like the alternatives to an atheistic basis for science and do not like the logical implications of abandoning their atheistic paradigm and, in conducting themselves that way, they have achieved a degree of immunity to what most people call logic.


488 posted on 7/29/02 5:18 AM Pacific by medved