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Park Ranger Killed Near Border
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Posted on 08/09/2002 9:10:09 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch

National Park Service Ranger Killed in Shooting Near U.S.-Mexico Border

The Associated Press

TUCSON, Ariz. Aug. 9 — A National Park Service ranger was killed Friday in a shootout with suspected smugglers near the U.S.-Mexico border, authorities said.

The ranger was responding, along with the U.S. Border Patrol, to a call for assistance from Mexican authorities who were chasing two men in a vehicle that crossed the border into the Organ Pipe National Monument.

Authorities were still investigating what happened, and it wasn't immediately clear why the men were being chased.

Dale Thompson, chief park ranger at the monument, said the shootout took place about 100 yards north of the border in a rugged stretch of desert known for both drug and people smuggling.

The ranger's identity wasn't released.


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To: 4America
I don't think any of the Border Governor's are concerned about what their State's citizens have to say on this matter. They have bigger plans.

Source

Border governors flex influence muscle

By Hernán Rozemberg
The Arizona Republic
June 23, 2002 12:00:00

Leaders from U.S.-Mexican border states said Saturday that last year's terrorist attacks created unprecedented interest in the region and now is their best chance to influence federal policy in both countries.

Emerging from a series of closed-door meetings at the 20th Border Governors Conference in Phoenix, the representatives from Mexico's six border states said that for 19 years, they've seen little action taken in Mexico City after submitting detailed conference reports. This time, they say, they will insist on getting answers.



Special report
• More about border issues

Hotly debated issues like the sharing of water and electricity can be worked out only at the federal level, but border governors say they have to stop bureaucracy from getting in the way of major decisions.

"By directly petitioning our federal government, we're making sure our recommendations will be thoroughly examined and that some kind of decision will be made on them," said Fernando Canales Clariond, governor of Nuevo León.

Some border issues are a matter of life and death. The governors decried this summer's record pace of migrant deaths in the desert and renewed their call for the creation of a guest worker program that would provide legal jobs and curb risky border crossings.

Representing Arizona for the last time as she approaches the end of her term in office, Gov. Jane Hull reiterated the need for guest workers but also went further, noting she'd like to see the formal border disappear within two decades.

"Borders have a way of blocking our vision," she said.

"I see a region some day without walls. I envision a region where our children chat in English and Spanish, where we have an equal footing economically and we no longer need to count the bodies of migrants in the desert."

But until and if that change occurs, border governors want to make sure increased border security does not equal decreased cross-border commerce and tourism.

Arizona border towns, whose economies directly depend on Mexicans crossing north each day to shop, are still recovering from financial losses as shoppers disappeared after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.


221 posted on 08/12/2002 9:07:37 AM PDT by madfly
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To: ME4W
Ping
222 posted on 08/12/2002 10:04:59 AM PDT by madfly
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To: 4America
Go down to Tijuana some time. Go to Mexico city. Take a good look at what the Southwestern United States would be like if it were a part of Mexico. Most of the people who come darting across the border have ancestors who came from Europe. They have no more right to be here than any other European decendent. So what is the ulterior motive? I'm sure it couldn't be to take over the 5th largest economy in the world could it. I'm sure it couldn't be supported by marxist organizations who'd like nothing more than to break up the United States by any means possible. Our blinded blithering idiot who support such nonsense should be ashamed, but then that would take tools that aren't in their toolchest.
223 posted on 08/12/2002 10:31:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: It'salmosttolate
These border governors are all about the Border economy. Sounds like they want a Global Shopping Mall with easy access for all.
224 posted on 08/12/2002 10:31:10 AM PDT by madfly
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To: DoughtyOne
"Go down to Tijuana some time"

Been there a couple of times. The smell is so awful, that we got sick to our stomachs & had to roll up the car windows. Beyond discusting.
225 posted on 08/12/2002 11:14:41 AM PDT by 4America
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To: madfly
#221. Great post Madfly & very true.
226 posted on 08/12/2002 11:15:40 AM PDT by 4America
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To: 4America
Thanks, it was meant as more of a generic "you = everyone". Sorry about that. It seems like many people don't really think this issue through completely. I sure wish they would. Thanks for the comments.
227 posted on 08/12/2002 11:22:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: 4America
Any Americans who take this into their own hands will get more FBI attention than all the illegal alien criminals put together.
228 posted on 08/12/2002 1:19:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Jennikins
Yes, I agree! But convince this guy who answered my post...
Park Ranger Killed Near Border

Posted by Dog Gone to Terridan
On News/Activism Aug 10 8:13 AM #20 of 227

Fox ought to be held accountable for this ACT OF WAR!!!!
That's quite an overreaction. If you kill a British cop while trying to smuggle guns or drugs into Northern Ireland, I would hope that Britain wouldn't declare war on the US.



229 posted on 08/12/2002 1:25:02 PM PDT by Terridan
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To: Travis McGee
"Any Americans who take this into their own hands will get more FBI attention than all the illegal alien criminals put together."


Very true.
230 posted on 08/12/2002 1:49:52 PM PDT by 4America
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To: DoughtyOne
Go down to Tijuana some time. Go to Mexico city.

You don't need to go that far, you don't even have to cross the border to see what it's beginning to look like. You can go to almost any border county --at least in Texas-- and find the neighborhoods with outhouses and open latrines being built or drive through one of the many government housing projects and see windows made of cardboard and garbage everywhere. Or schools with kids exposing the others to TB and hepatitis. More and more there's less difference between the US and Mexican side.

231 posted on 08/12/2002 4:21:26 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Terridan
I would hope that Britain wouldn't declare war on the US.

If the US government was behind the killing maybe they would. The Mexican government isn't at all innocent, their officials make a lot of money from the drug cartels. No one in Mexico believes that government isn't one of the most corrupt anywhere.

232 posted on 08/12/2002 4:23:28 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
I wonder where the environmentalists are. Can you imagine that, human waste in an open air pit? Oh the humanities.

Look, you're right on target. This is a sad commentary. It's just amazing the two faced treatment this gets. Imagine some farmer on the border allowing the inlaws to set up shop on the back 40 in this manner. The flies wouldn't have found the latrine before the locals would have put an end to it. But now it's just honkey-dorey!

233 posted on 08/12/2002 5:00:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: FITZ
Ididn't write that about Britain, on the contrary... I was being nailed for wanting to declare war on Mexico!!!
234 posted on 08/13/2002 12:36:42 AM PDT by Terridan
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To: madfly
Why can't we build a steel enforced concrete fence along that border? It would be the best use of public funds in a long time.
235 posted on 08/13/2002 9:28:55 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: madfly
That should be steel-enforced concrete wall.
236 posted on 08/13/2002 9:29:22 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: Terridan

bttt


237 posted on 02/24/2011 9:47:09 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (The great American prostate exam continues.)
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