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>>>Where in this world is killing legal?<<<
Posted on 08/09/2002 3:47:42 PM PDT by Bowana
In a discussion on terrorism on another board, I was asked the following question, "Where in this world is killing legal"? 
 >>>Where in this world is killing legal?<<< 
 Right here in the good ole US of A and NH Too! 
 New Hampshire RSA TITLE LXII CRIMINAL CODE 
 CHAPTER 627 JUSTIFICATION 
 Section 627:4 Physical Force in Defense of a Person.  
 II. A person is justified in using deadly force upon another person when he reasonably believes that such other person: 
 (a) Is about to use unlawful, deadly force against the actor or a third person; 
 (b) Is likely to use any unlawful force against a person present while committing or attempting to commit a burglary; 
 (c) Is committing or about to commit kidnapping or a forcible sex offense; or 
 (d) Is likely to use any unlawful force in the commission of a felony against the actor within such actor's dwelling or its curtilage. 
 From the New Hampshire Revised Statutes Online: http://gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/indexes/default.html
 In any situation above, the act would never be considered murder by any definition of the word. This would be considered a "Justifiable Homicide" or a justified killing. 
 In the following dictionaries; Merriam-Webster's Collegiate® Dictionary, The American Heritage® Dictionary, Oxford American Dictionary, and Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, every one states that the definition of Murder is "unlawfully killing a person" or "to kill unlawfully". 
 Notice the legalese written in to the law, in general, using deadly force to defend yourself is only justified when the other party is in the process of using deadly force against you or another person. In other words your life or someone else's had better be in immediate eminent danger or you will be facing a murder charge. 
 Now in the case of burglary, kidnapping, a forcible sex offense, or the commission of a felony in your home, you or someone else only needs to be in "likely" danger.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: New Hampshire; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: constitution; killing; murder; personalprotection; selfdefense
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posted on 
08/09/2002 3:47:42 PM PDT
by 
Bowana
 
To: Bowana
    Nearly every state has laws like this. Some, like Texas go even further. Murder is an unlawful killing. A lawful killing isn't murder. A better question would have been, where is "murder" or an unlawful killing lawful. Or when can murder be excused. There is kinda a trick answer to that. I'll let some freepers try. parsy.
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posted on 
08/09/2002 3:58:45 PM PDT
by 
parsifal
 
To: Bowana
    I don't have any problem with that law at all. 
Do you?
3
posted on 
08/09/2002 3:58:53 PM PDT
by 
MonroeDNA
 
To: parsifal; Orual; aculeus; general_re
    Hmmmm, when is the "unlawful killing of another human being" lawful?
My brain hurts. I am pinging some FReepers to share my misery.
 
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posted on 
08/09/2002 4:05:45 PM PDT
by 
dighton
 
To: MonroeDNA
    Several states give you the ability to use lethal force to defend yourself. The catch is, that in too many states, they make it too difficult to own a gun so you can do this.
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posted on 
08/09/2002 4:08:22 PM PDT
by 
umgud
 
To: Bowana
    It's lawful and heroic to decapitate your beautiful blonde ex-wife Nicole and her friends if you are a black, washed-up football star.
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posted on 
08/09/2002 4:08:33 PM PDT
by 
Bon mots
 
To: Bon mots
    ...it's been postulated that being the 42nd President of the United States and Co-President enables one to leave a trail of bodies without repurcussions. Not to mention getting away with rape, perjury...
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posted on 
08/09/2002 4:10:23 PM PDT
by 
Bon mots
 
To: dighton; aculeus; general_re
     I am pinging some FReepers to share my misery. Gee, thanks. I think that falls into the category of unlawful lawful acts.
 
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posted on 
08/09/2002 4:16:41 PM PDT
by 
Orual
 
To: parsifal
    That may be so, but New Hampshire is also one of the few (if not the only) state who's citizens have a constitutional right to revolution... gotta love it! ;0)
Chad 'Live Free Or Die' Fairbanks
 
To: parsifal
    A better question would have been, where is "murder" or an unlawful killing lawful. Or when can murder be excused. When someone rapes your wife, daughter, or mother, or molests your child, and you track them down and put a bullet between their eyes! 
 That is what I would consider a "LAWFUL MURDER"!
 
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posted on 
08/09/2002 4:23:23 PM PDT
by 
Bowana
 
To: Bowana
    Self defense is not murder. But abortion is, several million dead babies, killed legally. And what is recognized as murder in this country may not be legal, but when true murderers get out in 7 years for "good behaviour", it may as well be.
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posted on 
08/09/2002 4:24:59 PM PDT
by 
goodieD
 
To: MonroeDNA
    I don't have any problem with that law at all.  Do you?
 Not me, I am a proud Live Free or Die Freeper!
 
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posted on 
08/09/2002 4:25:03 PM PDT
by 
Bowana
 
To: Chad Fairbanks
    Live free or die, indeed. My parents have owned a camp on Winnipesaukee since I was a toddler, and seeing that motto a dozen times every year as I grew up left a lasting impression. As soon as the market turns around and you folks start hiring us tech geeks again, I'm packing bags and never coming back. (I'd move there now an commute, but I think it would be *worse* to taste the freedom every night, but return to Mass hell every weekday!)
To: parsifal
    And, my source iff'n ya think I'm kidding...
June 2, l784
[Art.] l0. [Right of Revolution.] Government being instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security, of the whole community, and not for the private interest or emolument of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, whenever the ends of government are perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered, and all other means of redress are ineffectual, the people may, and of right ought to reform the old, or establish a new government. The doctrine of nonresistance ag ainst arbitrary power, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.
:0)
 
Comment #15 Removed by Moderator
To: Bowana
    The good ole US of A. so long as it is unborn babies who are being killed.
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posted on 
08/09/2002 4:28:59 PM PDT
by 
sport
 
To: BostonGuy
    I actually grew up there, but live behind the Evergreen Curtain now...
To: Banger
    Remember when they tried to pass a law making it so you were limited to PURCHASING ONLY ONE GUN PER MONTH? Myself, and lots of my family were VERY ticked... ;0)
Comment #19 Removed by Moderator
To: Banger
    Well, as I said, I live in another state now (Washington), but I still do my own handloading... it passes the time when I want to relax... :0)
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