[ladyinred]

Not California, it is a beautiful state.

Just has a lousy governor!

Good people, home of Ronald Reagan, and FreeRepublic.

I rest my case!

It is Arkansas anyway! Home of Clinton! :)

[Paul Atreides]

I am not using physical criteria, the people, etc. as the basis for my using California. I am using overall socio-political aspects. As I have said, over and over, I know that California is a beautiful state. In fact, I know that ALL of the states of this country are beautiful. Now, if you want to discuss any state that has produced a single politician for nomination as armpit, it would have to be a tie between Arkansas for Clinton and Mass. for Kennedy. Georgia would be next for Carter. Sorry to have to say that, but I would say it if it was my own state.