‘I WAS TOLD TO DOPE MY KID'

New York Post ^ | 8/07/02 | DOUGLAS MONTERO

[kattracks]

Should school systems be allowed to recommend that children be put on psychoactive drugs?

A 12-year-old upstate boy says the trusted educators in his local school forced him to take a cocktail of drugs that turned him into a psychotic who heard voices in his head.

[philman_36]

I already did.
No, you postulated.
Like I said before...
No, you questioned...
Why do I get the notion...

Nervous laughter I am surmisng.
Wrong again!
Oh well if you didn't think my reply had some merit, you wouldn't be replying in such a quantity, IMHO.
Your reply had no merit and that is exactly why I did respond. Didn't you read my response?
I'm LOL at your "reply"!
Carry on.

[Sandy]

And Mel Gibson has the hots for me.

[philman_36]

Like I said before, I must have hit a nerve.
Yes, you hit a nerve. The ulnar nerve.
You and phil are knee jerkingly reacting like a liberal would over abortion, except your sacred cow is marijuana.
I'm not knee jerkingly reacting at all. I see that you're trying to mix two seperate issues and deflect the thread and the issue.
What exactly is a sacred cow? Isn't that a Hindu thing?
I'm not Hindu.

[Dane]

Wow phil, don't get yourself in a tizzy with your reply #21. Oh that's right people only usually get into a tizzy unless you touch a nerve and that nerve in your case is your defense of marijuana, no matter what.

Like I said before you are acting like a militant abortion supporter, IMHO, with your ad hominems and irrational replies.

[philman_36]

And Mel Gibson has the hots for me.
Lucky you!

[Dane]

I see that you're trying to mix two seperate issues and deflect the thread and the issue.

What the issue that psychoactive drugs should not be prescribed to kids.

Are you telling me that marijuana is not a psychoactive drug?

[philman_36]

Wow phil, don't get yourself in a tizzy with your reply #21.
I didn't and haven't, which must be to your great chagrin. Your tizzy and my tizzy must be two different things too.
Oh that's right people only usually get into a tizzy unless you touch a nerve and that nerve in your case is your defense of marijuana, no matter what.
They do? How informative you are. You know all he buttons to push don't you. Where did you get your psychology degree at again?
Like I said before you are acting like a militant abortion supporter, IMHO, with your ad hominems and irrational replies.
Actually, you said...You and phil are knee jerkingly reacting like a liberal would over abortion, except your sacred cow is marijuana...which is not quite the same thing. Thanks for clarifying things.
And I've not made any ad hominems or irrational replies that I'm aware of. Please list them for me.

[philman_36]

Are you telling me that marijuana is not a psychoactive drug?
I've not told you that at all. I've asserted neither that it is or isn't.
Would you like me to tell you whether or not I think it is? If so, why didn't you just ask?

[philman_36]

What the issue that psychoactive drugs should not be prescribed to kids.
BTW...that made no sense at all so you'll have to clarify it for me.
Is it a statement, a question, poor grammar...

[Dane]

Where did you get your psychology degree at again?

I don't have one, just using common sense. And common sense tells me that you jump on anybody who has a bad word about marijuana.

Oh BTW, are you still telling me that marijuana is not a psychoactive drug, you know the theme of this thread, the prescribing of psychoactive drugs to children.

[Sandy]

why didn't you just ask?

Because it's easier to just dream up notions.

Quit wasting your time with this guy.

[Dane]

Is it a statement, a question, poor grammar.

Oh sheesh the last refuge of scoundrels, the grammar card, is being used, oh well I have to get ready for work anyway.

BTW, phil thanks for spotlighting the irrational mindset and PC thuggishness of the marijuana caucus on FR.

[Eagle Eye]

Why do I get the notion that if a doctor had "prescribed" marijuana...There is no nice way of answering that question. You just come up with some really stupid ideas sometimes.

[philman_36]

And common sense tells me that you jump on anybody who has a bad word about marijuana.
I "jump on" those who are stuck in the "Marijuana Madness" syndrome and who also think that the WOsD is beneficial to our nation. Please be concise.
Oh BTW, are you still telling me that marijuana is not a psychoactive drug, you know the theme of this thread, the prescribing of psychoactive drugs to children.
I'm still not telling you anything! You've not asked anything of me on that issue. You've made statements about what I'm supposed to have said when I said nothing on the matter.
The theme of this thread is about prescribing specific psychoactive drugs to children. You've brought your marijuana postulation to the thread, not I.
I was discussing the thread issue as my links through the above reply will indicate.
The thread was diverted with your ulnarly funny reply.

[philman_36]

Quit wasting your time with this guy.
But it's fun and too funny!
That ulnar nerve "hurts so good"!

[mhking]

W. Michael Mahoney - Superintendant
mahoneym@do.mcsd.dcboces.org

[philman_36]

Oh sheesh the last refuge of scoundrels, the grammar card, is being used, oh well I have to get ready for work anyway.
Heeeey! I'm no scoundrel! Talk about "ad hominems"...
I'm trying to converse with you, but can't with the (???) sentence structured in the manner in which it was.

Work? Have a nice day!

[Scully]

We have a theory here that ADHD and Bipolar disorder is caused by Clostridium difficile and that treatment with Ambrotose (complex sugars) and Flagyl antibiotic may stop the problem. Waiting to try it on a few patients.

I hope someone finds an answer for these burgeoning plagues. Good luck in your research!

[Steve Eisenberg]

Now the Dutchess County mom and son have enlisted the help of high-powered New Jersey lawyer Alan Milstein, who has a reputation of aggressively going after influential medical institutions accused of injuring their human-research subjects.

In other words, this is one of the lawyers who is literally making it illegal to cure cancer in the U.S., since research physicians are forbidden to make any radical departure from accepted therapy, and the small departures recommended by lawyers and "ethicists" are unlikely to work. (I do not have the slightest idea how to cure cancer except that it will not involve piling new treatments on top of old, or waiting until the patient is weakened by advanced disease and only then trying something new.)

As for this case, it is hard to comment because of lack of explanation of the boy's original problem. Maybe it was really serious, or maybe the school was making too big a deal over things. Don't know. However, the solution early on was for the family to have its own psychiatrist. If the family's psychiatrist made a recommendation for the boy not to have ritilin in the beginning, I doubt the school district would have overridden his judgement. Instead the mother just went along with the district she is now suing. Yes, good psychiatrists are expensive and are not well covered by health insurance. Generally they will give some break in price if real financial hardship is demonstrated. However, raising kids is expensive, and their health care has to be a parental priority.

Properly prescribed, the purpose of ritilin is to increase the child's ability to fulfill his responsibilities. This is a conservative purpose, exactly the opposite of the reason people use illegal drugs. The parent(s) should be worrying more about their child and less about getting back at the school district.

[TxBec]

ping

a friend of mine has a son with a similar case. She said all the meds they told her that her son "needed" really messed him up. (She home-schools him now and he seems to be improving - off the meds)