Posted on 08/07/2002 12:53:51 AM PDT by kattracks
Edited on 05/26/2004 5:08:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Should school systems be allowed to recommend that children be put on psychoactive drugs?
A 12-year-old upstate boy says the trusted educators in his local school forced him to take a cocktail of drugs that turned him into a psychotic who heard voices in his head.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
And one of them was on psychiatric drugs, too.
It's also believed that the anti-depressant psychotropic drug Luvox prescribed to Eric Harris, often used to treat obsessive-compulsive disorder may have been shared with Dylan Klebold, and taken in combination with alcohol or other drugs, including possibly on the day of the shooting, though it was stated that no evidence of drugs or alcohol had been found in Harris's body after his death. But there have been other falsehoods issued by authorities regarding the events of that day.
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Why do I get the notion that if a doctor had "prescribed" marijuana and the school and the courts forced the mother to keep administering it to her kid, that the outcry by some on FR would be against the parent for demonizing the wonderweed.
You get that notion because you have not the slightest grasp of the issue.
There major concern was he was not rolling over and that we needed to do more intrusive therapy. I flipped out needless to say. The following day (NO JOKE) he rolled over. I never looked back nor returned to that hospital!! He walked a week before his first birthday. Which was so cute as he was only 16 lbs with zero body fat. He never recieved any more therapy and has been just fine. His coordination level is in the top 90%! The kid is so agile he never gets hurt.
ANyway, one major problem we have had with his birthweight is his teeth. It seems as soon as a new tooth comes in it has a cavity. He has had to have a tooth pulled and 4 root canals not to mention all the cavaties filled. This all began when he was three. Right now his teeth are at age 6 when he is ten so we have to postpone braces and the like . So far he has lost only 4 teeth naturally and even then the permanent teeth grew behind them before they fell out. Meanwhile he has twice yearly cleanings.
Have either of you had this problem?
Is the 20th Century over yet? How 'bout the Enlightenment?
If a bunch of union/government stuffed shirts did something like this to my kid, "getting back at the school" would not be optional...it would be required. What happened here was a kid was needlessly experimented on with powerful drugs, and the parent was threatened with criminal sanction if she didn't hand over her child for this experimentation. They recklessly endangered a child, caused him and his family unbelievable stress, and caused him to hallucinate and hear voices. All of this started because a government teacher was to lazy and unskilled to handle a 12 year old boy in the classroom. If this were my kid, everyone involved would pay the price these acts...and I make damn sure it was a very high price.
Personally, I hope they sue the hell out of the school.
There is anecdotal evidence that most of the school shootings were done by students who were on Ritalin. And a kid acting out in 1st grade!?? He was BORED! The schools are too dumbed down for most kids as it is...
We will be homeschooling our kid(s) when of age.
Warning. This is a very sad situation. I can not imagine the hell this family had to go through and then to lose their son.
Goodness, unless this is on a different scale than I was taught, 130 is top 2.5%, 140+ is 1%, 182 must be like .0001%.
LOL.
As far as I know, marijuana's medical benefits include helping nausea and alleviating pain, so I'm not sure it would be prescribed for Behavioral management strategy. I guess it would depend on how much I trust the doctor of course.
"Meth" is meth-amphetamine, which is a type of amphetamine. The "meth" from Meth-amphetamine comes from the chemical name "methyl". The chemical Methamphetamine is composed of an amphetamine molecule with an additional methyl group attached to its nitrogen (amine group). A methyl is one of the simplest atomic groups which can be added to a molecule: it is a single carbon atom with a set of (usually) 3 hydrogens.
Take a look at Chem Compare. If you look on the far right end on these images, you can see that there is a "NH-CH3" on the Methamphetamine where there is a "NH2" on the amphetamine. For many of the known psychoactives, adding a methyl group slightly alters the effects, duration, and/or potency. As you start to pay attention to other chemical names, you'll see "meth" show up in many names and this will almost always indicate that there is a methyl group on the molecule somewhere. For Methamphetamine, the methyl allows it a little better fat solubility and thus better penetration into the brain.
Adderall is simply a brand name for a particular mix of different "stereoisomers" (same atoms connecting at the same places, just pointing in different directions in space at one point in the molecule) and salts of amphetamine. Take a look at the page describing Adderall for a little more info about this.
Ritalin (methylphenidate) does contain an amphetamine-like backbone, however it is more complex. Take a look at the difference in Chem-Compare. The additional structures on this molecule also alter its interaction with the body and the neurons in our brains. Methylphenidate is reported to have less euphoric effects (some people describe it as 'more dull') than methamphetamine, but every individual is unique in their reaction to psychoactives, so no statement is universally true. While similar in backbone structure, amphetamine, methamphetamine, and ritalin are all quite unique drugs, with somewhat similar, but distinct, effects.
Another thing to note when talking about the differences in the amphetamine-class stimulants is that one of the strange effects of current culture is that particular drugs are demonized in the news, entertainment media, government information, and school curricula. Methamphetamine is particularly demonized, amphetamine somewhat less so, even though amphetamine-related stimulant drugs -- including methylphenidate (Ritalin), amphetamine (Adderall, Dexedrine), & methamphetamine (Desoxyn) -- are commonly prescribed for children from as young as age 3. All three of these can lead to difficult-to-break habits and can become a problem for some people who try them. But the marketing teams of the pharmaceutical companies do what they can to soothe parents' concerns by separating the image of street-speed users from the clean, clinical, healthy use of their products.
All of these substances are swallowed, snorted, smoked, and injected by users (in estimated order of frequency) and all can be dangerous in combinations with MAOIs, at high doses, or at high frequencies of use.
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