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Jesus, Budweiser Billboard Defaced - advertisement with Jesus as a pitchman for Budweiser beer
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Posted on 08/06/2002 5:50:43 PM PDT by chance33_98


Jesus, Budweiser Billboard Defaced
Display Was Part Of Artscape
Larry Frum, Jr., Staff Writer 

POSTED: 7:46 a.m. EDT August 6, 2002 UPDATED: 7:47 a.m. EDT August 6, 2002

BALTIMORE -- Is it art or an advertisement? A billboard in a Baltimore neighborhood is drawing fire from people and paint cans alike.

The artist believes it's art, but it looks like an advertisement with Jesus as a pitchman for Budweiser beer. The painting shows Jesus holding a bottle of beer.

Sometime Sunday night, someone tried to whitewash the message by splashing paint all over the painting. The person who threw the paint left behind the can and a mess.

The billboard was part of Artscape, the downtown Baltimore art festival held last week. It was designed by a New Jersey artist and has been the source of many church discussions recently.

WBAL-TV 11 News in Baltimore couldn't find anyone who agreed with its message. One person said, "People are getting killed in accidents because of beer. But they got Jesus holding a beer up and that's not right."

However, most people also agreed that splashing white paint on the billboard was not the answer. One resident said, "Anybody can do the art they want to. If you don't like it, you should say so, but you shouldn't just destroy it.

Late Monday afternoon, the city removed the billboard. They say, not because some people find it offensive, but because it was covered in paint.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: antichristianart; artbigotry; decadentart; taxsupportedarts
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To: Jorge
for clarification ...

gluttonous means to eat to excess ...

winebibber means to drink wine to excess ...

neither of which did He do ... but He states He was eating and drinking ... pretty clear on that ...

http://www.dictionary.com/
61 posted on 08/06/2002 7:36:08 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: mykej
You were ahead of me while I was collecting my thoughts (and checking my Greek dictionary).

You are correct. The word oinos does mean wine, as in fermented grape juice. And the Greek word methuo does indeed indicate drunkenness.

62 posted on 08/06/2002 7:36:30 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother
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To: Alouette
How bout a billboard with Mohammed holding a beer?


63 posted on 08/06/2002 7:37:30 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: swarthyguy
Beer marketing is very hip. Look for Budwieser WWJD bracelets at bars any day now.
64 posted on 08/06/2002 7:37:37 PM PDT by eno_
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To: Dakmar
I'll take prayers. Don't need 'em for that. I am not the one who made such sarcastic remarks and references to the Lord and Savior, sparky.

Check that mote in your eye.......You got your privates whacked, and now you're whining.

Welcome to the big leagues.

65 posted on 08/06/2002 7:38:01 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: AnAmericanMother
yes. new wine was unfermented, obviously that's how it breaks old wineskins (after it ferments and expands) ... however, it must have been possible to get drunk on new wine, if one drank enough of it ...

why? because in Acts 2 the men speaking in tongues are accused of being full of "new wine" ... an obvious reference to drunkeness by some who misinterpreted the tongues event ...
66 posted on 08/06/2002 7:39:40 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: RightOnline
I would say right off hand, though, that if Jesus transformed water into ton kalon oinon, the good wine, he would have nothing to do with Budweiser. That's the stuff that the steward would have been referring to earlier.

All of which is sort of beside the bridge to the main point -- this billboard is in pretty execrable taste and probably would never have been put up if it referred to one of the more PC religions . . . .

67 posted on 08/06/2002 7:43:20 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother
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To: RightOnline
Actually I could hurl insults right back at you, but I've found out that only makes people look foolish and petty. It has long been discredited as a debating tool. Why don't you try posting sources to support your claim, as those who refute your claim are doing?
68 posted on 08/06/2002 7:44:28 PM PDT by Dakmar
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To: RightOnline
"What say we all pick on.......oh.....hmmm.........your best friend. "

Let's say that you and me and my best friend are out having a pint and shooting the breeze. You make a joshing remark, obviously not intended as a serious insult. ("how ya doin' you old S.O.B.?")

My friend isn't insulted. He understands human interaction, and he knows how to take a joke.

Who would you think is a fool? a) you for engaging in normal social behavior b) my friend for not being insulted or c) me, if I started ranting and raving about your abuse of somebody who can stand up for himself and obviously didn't see any abuse?

Don't you think God understands jokes better than any human could?

If someone here were engaging in mean-spirited, hateful jokes about God, I could understand you being upset. If I in any way gave that impression, I apologize. (To you, because I know He knows my heart and wasn't offended.)
69 posted on 08/06/2002 7:44:46 PM PDT by mykej
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To: Bobby777
Acts 2:13 KJV

Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

(Whole Chapter: Acts 2 In context: Acts 2:12-14)
70 posted on 08/06/2002 7:45:06 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: eno_; Dakmar; StoneColdGOP
This is G o o g l e's cache of http://www.richp.com/humor/textfiles/religious_beers.


Christian Beer:
Everyone thinks that they know what's in here, but nobody does. Tells you
that it is vital to your survival, and that all other beers will poison
you. Stole the recipe from Jewish Beer, now cliam that it is all the
Jewish Beer drinker's fault.

Muslim Beer:
Same as Christian beer, though they won't admit it. Fanatical in their
attempts to convert other beer drinkers. Cans of Muslim beer occasionally
explode in the presence of Jewish Beer. At least once in their lifetime,
drinkers must visit the original brewery.

Jewish Beer:
A very quite beer. Jewish beer drinkers are often persecuted by Muslin and
Christian beer drinkers. Very similar to Christian beer, as Christian beer
is a variation on the Jewish beer recipe (though they won't admit they
stole the recipe from the Jewish beer makers). The oldest of the surviving
beers.

Buddhist Beer:
Claims that by drinking the beer, you will never have to drink beer again.
If you don't drink it, you will always get another chance. A very hard
beer to stomach, drinkers of this beer get drunk in a very peculiar way,
selling off all of their possesions and going to live on a mountain
somewhere.

Hindu Beer:
Hindu beer drinkers are a very peculiar lot. Hindu beer comes in several
different levels of quality, though the drinker is restricted to one type
of Hindu beer per life. If they drink enough, they supposedly come back
and are allowed to drink a better brand of beer. If enough of the best
beer is drunk, they never have to drink beer again.

Agnostic Beer:
Drinkers of agnostic beer aren't really sure if they're drinking beer or
not. Drunk by those unsure what kind of beer to drink; athiest beer,
another beer, or their own recipe.

Athiestic Beer:
Claims not to be a beer, though it will get you just as drunk as any other
kind of beer. Drinkers claim that beer is bad for you, though they
continue to drink it.

Satanist Beer:
Uses the exact opposite ingrediants of Christian beer. Still manages to
get you drunk, though. Condemned by drinkers of most other beers.

Diest Beer:
Drinkers claim that there was a brew master who made the first brewery and
then retired. Now, they are trying to figure out exactly how their beer is
made, and what its ingrediants are.

Variations on Christian Beer:

Catholic Beer:
Very strict, says that every other type of beer will cause you to die a
horrible, painful death. Once you start drinking Catholic beer, you aren't
allowed to stop. Brewers of Catholic beer aren't allowed to share their
beer with anyone else. Catholic beer gets you VERY drunk. Catholic beer
drinkers also must obey every command of the head brewmaster.

Lutheran Beer:
Not a particular brew, states that everyone must make up their own recipe.

Morman Beer:
Allows you to drink multiple beers at once, as many as you want!

Calvinist Beer:
States that it is predetermined how much of this beer you will drink, or
whether or not you will drink it at all.

Anabaptist Beer:
States that a person should not be forced to drink any particular type of
beer until they are 18, when they should choose for themselves what beer to
drink (though if they don't choose Anabaptist beer, they will supposedly go
to Hell).

Jesuit Beer:
Drinkers are VERY fanatical, and will be willing to kill people in order to
get them to drink Jesuit beer. Jesuit beer occasionally believe that they
have the power to brew the beer, though never with any success.


Beers That Are No Longer Drunk:

Greek Beer:
Claims that their are several brewmasters, each in charge of a particular
aspect of the brewing process, as opposed to one single master brewer. No
longer drunk, as all of the beer drinkers were killed off, though we still
like to read the cans.

Roman Beer:
A rip-off of Greek beer. They stole the recipe and re-named the
ingrediants, though it is really the exact same thing.
Egyptian Beer:
Also says that there are several master brewers, like Greek Beer does.
Claims that the leader of the drinkers is actually the head brew master
himself. After about 2000 years, stopped getting people drunk, and the
beer drinkers empire collapsed. Up until this century, we couldn't read
the writing on the cans.

Native American Beer:
We're not really sure what's in here, as the Christian Beer drinkers killed
off almost all the Native American Beer drinkers. Now only drunk on small
patches of land known as reservations.

Mayan Beer:
Like Egyptian Beer, said that the head brewer was actually an incarnation
of the brew master. Required the head brewer to preform genital
blood-letting and the drinkers to preform acts of self-mutilation. For
some reason, no one drinks this beer anymore, except for a very watered
down version.

Aztec Beer:
Similar to Mayan Beer, except that instead of genital blood-letting, there
were human sacrifices. All the beer drinkers were killed off by drinkers
of the Christian brew. This beer, for one reason or another, has not been
marketed since.


71 posted on 08/06/2002 7:46:06 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Bobby777
Well, as a matter of fact my dad is an amateur winemaker (pretty good stuff), and "new wine" has always been the wine of this season, which has completed the vat fermentation process but has been bottled. As a general rule, it's raw but it's cheap. I think the scoffers were making fun of the apostles, as in, "these guys are a bunch of cheap drunks."

The wine would not have been put into skins until after the first fermentation, because that process produces so much carbon dioxide and general tumult that it's done in barrels or vats (probably big clay jugs in the old days). I vividly remember one hot fall afternoon when we went to church and the fermentation process overheated . . . we returned to find a river of purple running down the driveway . . . oh woe! As my dad says, he'd rather see an old lady run over by a train.

72 posted on 08/06/2002 7:47:18 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother
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To: chance33_98
The artist believes it's art, but it looks like an advertisement with Jesus as a pitchman for Budweiser beer. The painting shows Jesus holding a bottle of beer.

I think we all need to boycott Budweiser and all the beer they manufacture AND let them know why we won't be buying anymore! This infuriates me.

Anyone got contact information?

73 posted on 08/06/2002 7:49:47 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: eno_
There used to a router (Telecoms equipment) company called Shiva.

Led me to ponder a backup/restore software called Jesus Saves.
74 posted on 08/06/2002 7:49:53 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Bobby777
for clarification ...

gluttonous means to eat to excess ......

winebibber means to drink wine to excess ...

neither of which did He do ... but He states He was eating and drinking ... pretty clear on that ...

Thank you. This makes more sense.
I wouldn't have believed He drank simply because He didn't rebuke their accusations that He was a glutton and winebibber.....but rather because He says he ate and drank.
That was my entire point.

75 posted on 08/06/2002 7:50:46 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: AnAmericanMother
agreed ... the CO2 is the problem ... hence Jesus' illustration of new wine into old wineskins, a revelation of the mystery of the Church Age to come ... as I'm confident you're familiar with! (obviously!) ... FReegards ...
76 posted on 08/06/2002 7:51:44 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: Salvation
I don't think we can blame Bud for this one. Looks like some freelance artist used their product without their permission.

Maybe we could encourage Anheuser Busch to sue the artist for copyright infringement? That would be poetic justice.

77 posted on 08/06/2002 7:51:47 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother
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To: Jorge
agreed ... and thank you for your reply ...
78 posted on 08/06/2002 7:52:37 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: swarthyguy
Lutheran Beer:
Not a particular brew, states that everyone must make up their own recipe.

That philosophy has helped me make a new friend here on this thread. :-)

79 posted on 08/06/2002 7:53:26 PM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Dakmar
YOu haven't tried Lutheran beer, have you ';)
80 posted on 08/06/2002 7:54:47 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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