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The Coming World War
Self | 08/05/2002 | Prysson

Posted on 08/05/2002 10:12:24 AM PDT by Prysson

The Coming World War

Many people will disagree with the assertion made by the title. War they will say is not inevitable. Unfortunately they are not looking at the facts…or at least they are not looking at the history.

1400 years ago an Islamic Empire established itself, sweeping across North Africa and into Spain and even Southern France before finally being stopped by the Franks. This clash between Islam and Western Civilization (or as some would refer to it a clash between Islam and Christendom) has not ceased since that day. Muslim incursions into Europe occurred again and again over the course of the millennium and a half that followed, and yes to be fair their were plenty of western incursion into the middle east.

This war has been ongoing and despite what some people might believe did not cease with the collapse and break up of the Ottoman empire following World War I. Contrary to popular belief the break up of the Islamic Empire did not in fact put an end to Imperial Islamic aspirations. Gahdafi, Ayatollah Khomeni, Saddam Hussein and others have all hinted at if not openly declared their intention to:

A. Establish an Islamic Empire. B. Spread that Empire to every corner of the globe.

The evidence out there is overwhelming. Just as a single example; as late as 1995 a council of more than 80 Islamic Nations gather to discuss the Islamic Conquest of Africa. Their stated objective was the total conquest of African as an Islamic continent. With Arabic as the official Language and Islam as the official religion. This council is not an anomaly neither in recent history nor in ancient history.

Since its conception Islam has attempted to spread its religion (by flame and by sword) to every corner of the globe. It is an imperative of the religion. I grow tired of people ignorant of the truth trying to tell me that Islam is a religion of Peace. I am particularly tired of people who have never read the Quran (Koran) telling me that it is a religion of peace. It is not. Their 1400 year old history of trying to conquer and convert the entire globe is proof of that. Their murderous and ceaseless attacks against western civilization are further evidence of that.

They claim that the West (lead by America) practices hegemony. That is actually very true. The west has practiced hegemony against the Islamic world for more that 1400 years. What else can you call it when for fourteen hundred years western civilization has fought off invasion after invasion. Now the west tries desperately to prevent the recreation of an Islamic Empire. Other forces at work in the Middle East try desperately to overcome this obstacle.

Why is war inevitable? For the same reason war was inevitable in Europe 1938. Because a world wanted to insist that peace was possible despite every peace of evidence that it was not. State Department type diplomats convinced their leadership that Hitler and Germany could be dealt with peacefully. That war could be averted. That violence was not necessary. What they got a war that brought them to their knees and almost destroyed them.

Today that same blindness, that same peace at all costs attitude pervades the rest of the world. Just as in 1938 the rest of the world wanted to stick its collective head in the sand and pretend that Germany was not really a threat…so to today is our world full of people who wish to stick our collective heads in the sand. We appease and prevaricate and in the end we give them time. Time to build their arsenals of weapons of mass destruction. All the while thinking that somehow we can convince these people not to use them. Somehow we can convince these people who have not ceased fighting us for fourteen hundred years to suddenly make nice. Somehow, we can convince these people whose only goal and objective is our destruction that we can live peacefully even though their very religion tells them that they must conquer us. (and don’t tell that it doesn’t because 1400 years of Islamic Conquest proves you wrong)

That is why War is inevitable. Because eventually they will have their weapons. And just as we fail to understand them and the reasons why the MUST conquer us…they too in their ignorance of us and our customs will fail to realize why they will never succeed in conquering us. That we would never let them and they will never have the power to succeed. Aided by their cultural failings that tell them that seeking peace and conciliation are weaknesses rather than a moral imperative they will see us as weak because we fail to do what we should which is ACT…and in the end that failure will cause a worse war.

Do not get me wrong. I do not intend to paint a doom and gloom picture and the destruction of the world. They are not powerful enough to defeat us, nor are they patient enough to wait until they are strong enough, before they strike. And in the end they do not understand us enough to know that they would be well advised not to. Such a war would only have one possible outcome. Their utter annihilation. It saddens me, and angers me some as well, that so many will be lost that do not need to be if we would only accept what is and what must be and strike now while we can and not wait until the inevitable explosion that is to come.


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KEYWORDS: america; culture; fundamentalism; islamic; war; west; wwiv
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To: Lurker
Islam - The Religion of Peace?


121 posted on 03/26/2004 7:00:18 AM PST by petercooper (I actually did vote for the $87 Billion, before I voted against it.)
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To: Ancesthntr
interesting points.. i blieve the UK will take a stand with the US after the rampant hate bush stuff goes away. its unbelievable what they say about bush in euroscumland. as for most of europe they have sided with the terrorist for the time being
122 posted on 03/26/2004 7:05:53 AM PST by rrrod
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To: rrrod
IMHO, they don't hate Bush because he's Bush, but because he's an assertive American leader, willing to use our power and do so alone if necessary. The EU Lilliputians can't tie us up with their strings if we don't have to reach a consensus with them, and they don't like that. They were #1 in the world for 5 centuries, and can't stomach the idea that a bunch of uncultured hicks in an upstart country could be more powerful than all of them combined - and the French are especially jealous.

I still contend that when push comes to shove, most or all of them will realize that they must be with us or perish.
123 posted on 03/26/2004 7:27:01 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: Ancesthntr
hope you are right in your assertionswonder how long we will wait?
124 posted on 03/26/2004 8:17:55 AM PST by rrrod
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To: Prysson
I think this is a pretty decent presentation of facts most of the world chooses to ignore.

Certainly a world war is coming. This presentation is but one that could be put forth as too the roots, goals and major actors. Certainly Islam is a key tool of the king of hell toward bringing about his tyrannical world government.

But he's not above using China, Russia, the USA, France, any and all he can in any way he can.

His job is to rob, kill and destroy out of spite for being kicked out of heaven. He cares for nothing else.

All are pawns to meet their own traumatic deaths who join with him from Shrillery on down.
125 posted on 03/26/2004 10:06:22 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Prysson
I like your summary. Here's a little research that you inspired:

Most of the history of warfare for the last 1400 years is the history of Islam and their war against the rest of the world.

I have attempted to locate information on conflicts between Islam and other cultures.  I have ignored internal issues within each culture, such as "sultan X dies and is replaced by sultan Y."

  Islam against the world West against Islam Other
610 AD Birth of Islam    
629 Slaughter of Jews in Medina    
630 Conquest of Makkah (Mecca)    
632 Death of Muhammed    
633 Conquest of Arab Peninsula    
637 Conquest of Jeruselam    
642 Conquest of Egypt    
647 Conquest of North Africa    
711 Conquest of Spain    
716 Invasion of Constantinople    
725 Muslims occupy Nimes, France    
732 Battle of Tours    
792 Invasion of South France    
1095   First Crusade  
1099   Crusaders recapture Jerusalem  
1174 Salah ud Din annexes Syria    
1187 Salah ud Din wrests Jerusalem from the Christians Third crusade.  
1194 Occupation of Delhi by the Muslims.    
1199 Conquest of Northern India and Bengal by the Ghurids.    
1245 The Muslims reconquer Jerusalem.    
1258     Mongols sack Baghdad - Mongol II-Khans establish their rule in Iran and Iraq
1266   The eighth crusade. The crusaders invade Tunisia. Failure of the crusade. Death of Berek Khan the first ruler of the Golden Horde to be converted to Islam.
1267 First Muslim state in Indonesia.    
1299     Mongols invade Syria.
1365 In the Ottoman Turks empire, The Turks defeat the Christians at the battle of Matiza, the Byzantine ruler becomes a vassal of the Turks.    
1371 In the Ottoman Turks empire, Invasion of Bulgaria, Bulgarian territory upto the Balkans annexed by the Turks.    
1456 In the Ottoman Turks empire, Annexation of Serbia.    
1461 In the Ottoman Turks empire, Annexation of Bosnia and Herzogovina.    
1462 In the Ottoman Turks empire, Annexation of Albania.    
1473 In the Ottoman Turks empire, War against Persia; Persians defeated.    
1475 In the Ottoman Turks empire, Annexation of Crimea. War against Venice. Tukey became the master of the Aegean Sea.    
1499 In the Ottoman Turks empire, The Turks defeated the Venetian fleet in the battle of Lepanto.    
1507   The Portuguese under d'Albuquerque establish strongholds in the Persian Gulf.  
1511   D'Albuquerque conquers Malacca from the Muslims.  
1517 The Ottoman Sultan Selim Yavuz ("the Grim") defeats the Mamluks and conquers Egypt.    
1526 The Battle of Panipat in India, and the Moghul conquest; Babur makes his capital at Delhi and Agra.    
1528 The Ottomans take Buda in Hungary.    
1529 Unsuccessful Ottoman siege of Vienna.    
1571   The Ottomans are defeated at the naval Battle of Lepanto, and their dominance in the Mediterranean is brought to a close.  
1603 Persia occupies Tabriz, Mesopotamia. Mosul and Diyarbekr    
1683 The Turks lift the siege of Vienna and retreat. Kara Mustafa the Grand Wazir executed for the failure of the expedition.    
1711 War between Turkey and Russia. Russia defeated at the battle of Pruth.    
1718   In the war against Austria, Turkey suffers defeat. By the treaty of Passarowich Turkey loses Hungary.  
1811   British occupied Indonesia.  
1814   Iran executed treaty of alliance with the British known as Definitive Treaty.  
1830   French forces landed near Algiers and occupied Algeria ending 313 years rule of Turks.  
1840   Quadruple Alliance by the European powers to force Egypt to relinquish Syria.  
1857   British captured Delhi and eliminated Mughal rule in India after 332 years. Last Mughal Emperor Bahadur Shah Zafar was exiled to Rangoon in Burma. This was also the end of 1000 years of Muslim rule over India.  
1879   Treaty of Berlin. Turkey lost 4/5 th of its territory in Europe.  
1881   France invaded Tunisia and the Bey acknowledged supremacy of France as a result of the treaty of Bardo.  
1882   Egypt came under British military occupation.  
1901   French forces occupy Morocco.  
1914     World War I.
1916     Arab revolt against Ottoman (Turkish) rule. Lawrence of Arabia leads attacks on the Hijaz Railway.
1918     Armistice signed with Ottomans on October 30
1918     World War I ends on November 11
1918     Syria and Damascus become a French protectorate
1928 Hasan al-Banna founds the Muslim Brotherhood    
1932     Iraq granted independence by League of Nations
1936     Increased Jewish immigration provokes widespread Arab-Jewish fighting in Palestine
1939     World War II
1941   British and Russian forces invade Iran and Reza Shah is forced to abdicate in favor of his son Mohammad Reza Shah in Iran  
1943     Beginning of Zionist terrorist campaign in Palestine
1945     End of World War II
1946     Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria are granted independence from Britain and France
1947 Creation of Pakistan from Muslim Majority area in India    
1948     Creation of state of Israel. Arab armies suffer defeat in war with Israel

This is mostly from a brief chronology of Muslim history http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/history/chronology/

126 posted on 03/26/2004 5:16:53 PM PST by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: Phsstpok
Nice summary..kind of confused me at first..I was wondering what post you were replying too. I first posted this more than a year ago.

127 posted on 03/27/2004 1:25:04 PM PST by Prysson
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To: Prysson
World war inevitable?

Global American Revolution

We'll win it.
128 posted on 03/27/2004 1:34:29 PM PST by Robert Teesdale
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To: Prysson
I first posted this more than a year ago.

nothing ever goes away on the internet. I once got a response to an old thread on the Ingram Mac 10 and had forgotten what I had posted. I wandered through the thread and came across a post that I like and so I responded to it real quick... before I realize it was my post. Ah well, I guess "great minds" do think alike ;^>

129 posted on 03/27/2004 1:43:12 PM PST by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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