WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE OF FIVE MURDERED AMERICANS????

[Diogenesis]

WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE? - AT LEAST SEVEN DEAD, FIVE AMERICANS MURDERED!

And 86 innocent were injured, critically, many to die and suffer from
virus-ridden screws, nails, and shrapnel.

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MURDERED WERE:

Marla Bennet, 24, American of San Diego, CA
MA student in Jewish education, Rothberg InternationalSchool
BA political science University of Berkeley California

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Benjamin Richard Blutstein, 25, American of Harrisburg, PA,
MA, Jewish education, Rothberg International School
BA religion aDickinson College Carlisle, PA

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Dina Carter, 38,
Jewish National and University Library, Givat Ram as librarian and archivist
BA Duke University
MSW degree University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
immigrated to Israel in 1990

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Janis Ruth Coulter, 36, Brooklyn, New York,
history and Judaic University of Massachusetts Amherst
master's candidate in Judaic studies University of Denver

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David Gritz, 24, Paris, France, a US citizen.
Rothberg International School
BA philosophy University of Paris
first year of studies for master's degree philosophy University of Paris

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David Diego Ladowski, born in Argentina in 1973
immigrated to Israel in 1992
communications at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem
administrative positions at the Hebrew University and the Ministry of Communications
was to assume his diplomatic assignment at the Embassy of Israel in Lima, Peru

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Levina Shapira, 53,
ead of the student services department at the Hebrew University Jerusalem.
BA sociology and political science Hebrew University

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Perps and terrorist supporters cheering the deaths of Americans as they did during 911
The US State Dept, EU, and UN will bend over backwards to give these terrorists
more money, more weapons, more time to get WMD, and more opporunity to
kill more Americans and cheer about it. WAKE UP AMERICA !!!!!!

[Catspaw]

A question for you; Why do you report 5 American deaths (I asume those featured were the Americans) yet I see two who emmigtrated to Israel - in fact, one was born in Argentina? Yes, yes, I know...technically this doesn't preclude their being US citizens. But the deaths of these "Citizens of the World" who have such a dubious claim to US citizenship doesn't inspire any patriotic furor on my part. I've always had a problem with these fair weather Americans. If they immigrated to Israel, then they damned well ought to be Israelis.

I see that you agree with Hamas. Hamas regrets the death of the "pure" Americans, but those with dual citizenship (the term is actually dual nationality) are legitmate targets.

[The Electrician]

I bet you would walk into the path of an oncoming car that obviously had no intention of stopping to exercise your "right of way."

Wrong. That response is such a complete distortion of my statement that it hardly merits a comment.

The essence of your argument is that giving in to terrorists is "a good thing" and the right thing to do. Thus you are blaming the victims for the actions of murderous thugs, while implicitly rewarding the murderers at the same time.

It's an argument that we've heard before in other guises - such as 'America had it coming' (the WTC attack). But it's a bankrupt argument, which, if carried to its logical conclusion would simply mean that civilization must inevitably give in to barbarianism. A very dangerous, defeatist world view.

[KantianBurke]

If his statement is as just as honest as his statement during the campaign not to sign CFR then truly, his actions will speak alot louder than his words. Sorry but color me skeptical of his "pledge."

[joyful1]

Don't you get it? The media only gets worked up if a Palestian gets killed. Especially kids. Otherwise, they'd rather sweep it under the carpet.

[contessa machiaveli]

does that mean missionaries shouldn't go to the philipines, businessmen should stay out of saudi arabia, journalists shouldn't report from pakistan, embassy personnel shouldn't take their daughters to a christian church in karachi? are you blaming the victims because of your utter frustration and anger at our inability to stop the slaughter? i hate waking up on a sunday AM and hearing about more murders in israel by palestinian savages.

[FITZ]

They were stupid to knowingly go into harms way.

In a way they did but they went to a country that has a good standard of living and freedom for it's people and is a US ally. It's not like an American going into an enemy country and then expecting complete safety.

I hope Bush is more than just mad.

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[APBaer]

"are you blaming the victims because of your utter frustration"

No, I'm saying that they went into harm's way and in so doing *they* contributed to their own fate.

[Diogenesis]

Eating in a cafeteria at a university should not be
"in harm's way", should it?

[APBaer]

No one *should* be in harm's way.
Peace and goodness should follow everyone all the days of their lives.

That said, if you're eating in a cafeteria in a university in a known "war zone" it is not impossible to imagine you will have worse trouble than acid reflux. And if you do, it should not come as a big frigging surprise.

[Pylot]

You wrote:

"however, you -- in your self interest -- think it reasonable to cower in the corner."

So I suppose you think you are going to goad me by calling me a coward. Nice try. If you are so brave, why don't you go wear a red white and blue t shirt and walk around Bogota or Manilla or Johannesburg or Beirut or Damascus for a few hours? What good will it do anyone when you are snatched off the street and offered for ransom or killed as an example? Will you affect anything except your own life?

You also wrote:

"So then these seven people who have been murdered are responsible for the ugly result -- their murder."

That is your conclusion. But one inescapable fact is very clear. If they had not been there, they would not have been killed.

The planet is not yours for the taking. You are not free to go anywhere any time and neither you nor anyone else ever has been. It just seems naieve to me to think that the world is a free and wonderful place without hazard of any kind. This is a particularly dangerous time to be in the Middle East. Since you only get one life, why risk it?

There have been a number of times when I was unable to take off in a plane because of an approaching spring storm. The ominous approach of the dark clouds and fast moving and very dangerous weather could be easily seen from my cockpit. So I remained in place and the storm passed, maybe it took a half hour, maybe an hour. Then the sky cleared and I took off. The difference between going right away and waiting a short while could easily have been losing my life versus a relatively easy ride.

If you know danger is imminent, are there not more prudent ways to deal with it than immersing yourself in it???

[FreeReign]

If you go in harms way and harm comes to you, then you must be responsible for your actions and the ugly result. The world is a generally desperate and dangerous place.

So then these seven people who have been murdered are responsible for the ugly result -- their murder.

That is your conclusion. But one inescapable fact is very clear. If they had not been there, they would not have been killed.

No, that was your original stated conclusion. I just repeated it for affect. BTW the one inescapable fact worth mentioning of primary importance is that the people who commited these murders are evil.

[FreeReign]

"However, you -- in your self interest -- think it reasonable to cower in the corner."

So I suppose you think you are going to goad me by calling me a coward. Nice try. If you are so brave, why don't you go wear a red white and blue t shirt and walk around Bogota or Manilla or Johannesburg or Beirut or Damascus for a few hours? What good will it do anyone when you are snatched off the street and offered for ransom or killed as an example? Will you affect anything except your own life?

I, similar to you, in my own self interest, would have been prudent and not gone to college in Isreal, but that's not the point. The point is that the seven killed were brave to live the lives they did. It was you who goaded them with blame for their own murders instead of praising them.

[Spirited]

"The US is a war zone". The Israeli students were not IN the US.

They were not sent out BY the US (as the MIA's were). They did not represent the US (as the MIA's did). I am desperately sorry for any young life that is killed so needlessly by anyone, for any reason but I am not willing to be outraged about this incident because I feel it is obligatory first to mourn and be outraged about the actions of our government(of the people, for the people, by the people) relative to Americans who fought and died (or may still live imprisoned) to maintain your freedom to support whomever you see fit (Arabs, Zionists, Chicoms, Russians etc.).

I wonder whether we can count on you to be outraged when Americans who are Muslims or Christians are killed by Israel? Or is the approved outrage only for Americans who are of some other stripe? Does your outrage extend to Messianic Jewish believers who are killed or do you, like the government of Israel consider them less than the approved others, not to be accorded all of the same rights?

I grieve for Jews (not American) whom my written checks helped to bring out of bondage into Israel whose lives were taken by the senselessness of this conflict. I grieve for those who were brought to "freedom" who haven't the freedom in Israel to worship the God of Abraham according to THEIR consciences without being seen as second-class.

As for moving to my shelter, I live within 3 miles of the Pentagon. There is no shelter which will avail. However, whatever the reason that holds me here, it is a choice. I will live or die by it.

When this area is hit I deeply suspect that the only outrage will be on behalf of the elites who were not in their prepared bunkers. Life will go on.

The only irreconcilable loss is that this beloved representative republic (The United States of America) will become more and more the democracy the media is convincing us we are. The people becoming subjects rather than citizens (like any other democracy) with fewer and fewer freedoms, little liberty with even more enormous injustices. All this in exchange for some imagined safety which no earthly person or group can guarantee.

[Pylot]

I think we can agree that the people who killed these innocents are indeed, evil.

[CometBaby]

Nobody suggested you hide in your basement, but your exagerated response probably means you have nothing logical to say. Hence your resort to sarcasm.

Apparently you don't believe there were any personal choices available .. like maybe going to school somewhere other than a war zone. Oh no .. people are always *victims* .. and there is NOTHING they can do to try to improve the odds of survival .. short of hiding in their basement?

[CometBaby]

Nobody suggested you hide in your basement, but your exagerated response probably means you have nothing logical to say. Hence your resort to sarcasm.

Apparently you don't believe there were any personal choices available .. like maybe going to school somewhere other than a war zone. Oh no .. people are always *victims* .. and there is NOTHING they can do to try to improve the odds of survival .. short of hiding in their basement?

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[gunshy]

I don't recall that the State Department has put out a travel advisary on Isreal. There have been no warnings to americans to leave Isreal. The embassies are still at full staff in Isreal. How is a civilian american to assess the dangers of traveling to a foreign land. You Bushbots just can't accept that GWB just doesn't care about americans.