Posted on 08/03/2002 10:45:35 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
Yes, there are a lot of places that you wouldn't think Mexicans would be settling. However, given the economic and political setting within Mexico, along with the corporate and government attitude of the U.S., it doesn't surprise me.
The local poultry processing plant, where many Hispanics are employed, has signs all over in Spanish. Just an example of the many concessions that have been put into place over the past decade or so.
The problem, of course, is not Immigration as such; it's Turd World immigration. North American and Europe must end Turd World immigration immediately.
Multilanguage ballots have definitely got to go. Afterall, we're America, aren't we? Our language is supposed to be English, right?
I do agree with making English the official language in government and business dealing with the government. If a private business wants to advertise in their own language, that's their right. However, they have to realize that they risk alienating a large contingent of possible customers.
The Bilingual Lobby is insane. Most of them actually despise America and its Anglo-Saxon traditions. If they don't despise it, they seek to take advantage of the current demographic setting by creating rifts between newcomers and Native Americans.
You make a good point in regard to the problem of catering. That is, if ballots, services and business is done is given in their home language, why bother learning the language. After all, learning a language takes effort, but not having to do anything is so much easier. Thus, eliminating separate services and bilingual facilities would go a good way in helping preserve the autonomy of the country.
Your suggestions are great, as I have said. However, as I stated to Fitz, I've come to think that regardless to the amount of progress that is made in trying to bring newcomers into the fold, full assimilation may never occur due to tremendous differences in culture. If full assimilation does occur, it could very well take one hundred years. However, given the huge numbers, along with human behavior, bilingual services and social identity politics, those one hundred years could very well turn into never. I'm not talking about individuals per se, but am generally speaking about entire separate groups.
Political Correctness helped bring about the 1965 immigration act which shifted immigration from being that of a European phenomenon to one that is primarily Asian and Latin American.
Political Correctness has brought about, or helped maintain, social identity politics, affirmative action, bilingual education, multiculturalism, as well as a lot of other nonsense.
With each passing year, things have continued to get worse and worse. A lot of the problem has been an apathetic populace, along with a near-sightedness that plays well into political correctness. Many people aren't thinking long term and, instead, have a time span that exceeds less than five years into the future. Many have been blinded into all the cliches, and most do not compilate all the components in order to reveal where we are most likely headed. Like I said, if people are comfortable with their computers, television, food in their stomachs, and sports, they're not likely to become passioned to fight for what is most important. It's a shame, no doubt.
This is the definition of an alien culture, antagonistic to all of our values. The truth of it is here in writing, but it cannot be totally conveyed this way. People have to feel it, hear it, see it, and then be allowed to understand it by contemplation. When they do understand it, they will see it for the lurid chaos, the grim horror that it is. And then they will feel fear, and understand that something like a border fence on the U.S. - Mexico border is simply a wall to keep out the worst virus that could ever infect the United States, and already has: the vicious legacy of 5 centuries of feudal despotism.
Somehow, someway, the ordinary people of Mexico have to rise up against this. But we cannot simply let them stampede in here, running from the horror. That just serves the purposes of the Caudillo's that perpetuate the evil, because it can only end in destroying us, and giving them a foothold here (they already have it, of course..). Think of turning over the government to the Mafia...and then multiply by 10.
I have known many Mexicans who were born and raised here, and are completely assimilated in the egalitarian ideas that were embodied in this country's birth. Assimilation is possible, but only in manageable numbers.
We are far, far past anything approaching "manageable" numbers.
As I see it, this course, over the long term, will lead to the same thing as doing nothing, albeit will take longer.
There are only a few possible things that can be done. Take note that what I am about to say is not out of intolerance but of a love for country. I've looked long and hard into the problem, and without a plan that has some "meat", all attempts will be to no avail. Therefore, I'll list what needs to be done.
With regard to the illegal aliens already in the country. If the United States Government made a legitimate push to close the borders, and this includes increasing the border patrol 500-1000% or using the military on the borders and only the borders, then we may be able to get a handle on things. That is, if we make sure that our number one priority is our line of defense, then way may not have to go about rounding up illegals.
I would concur that every car be inspected at all border crossings. I am mainly referring to the border crossings with Mexico, for Canadians aren't slipping into our country left and right. Though I do think that border security should be strenthened with the Canadian border. The U.S. Government should put the word out several months to implementation that border checks will become mandatory until otherwise stated. If a worker happens to live in Mexico and works in the United States, and vice versa, they would be eligible to apply for a everyday cross passport with stipulations that he/she is the only person that shall be allowed to pass. Anyone else within the car, will not be admitted. Furthermore, passes will have to be checked monthly to assure that illegals aren't moving into the United States.
The hope is that border crossings will become so complicated that most residents will decide to stay within their own countries and find work there. In fact, daily border crossings have been one of the problems in debacling this whole mess. The goal is self sufficiency.
Meanwhile, the U.S. should pull out of NAFTA, GATT, and tell the Mexican Government that they will have to deal with their own people. Again, self sufficiency.
The last thing that should be done, short of rounding up illegals at their homes, would be to increase the INS in the interior, of which a program will be set in place with a set start and end time. The word will be given out six months in advance to members of certain industries that have been known to hire illegals, that inspections of work sites will begin and will end two to five years later. The inspections will be random, and that each employee should have valid documentation, including a green card, social security card, Immigration documentation, work visa, birth certificate, etc. If the employee is found without certified documentation, or if there is substantial evidence to prove that he/she is in the country illegally, then the worker will face automatic deportation, of which he/she, including illegal family members, will be deported within five days to two weeks. If an employer has been found to have breached the law, he/she will have to pay an expansive fine and possibly face jail time. The goal is that hiring illegals will become too much of risk or burden to employers, that hiring illegals will not be an option.
As you can see, with increased border enforcement, increased interior enforcement, US government speech to Mexican government, withdrawal from NAFT and GATT, along with automatic fines and deportations, the problems would likely subside, as many illegals would deport themselves, many would stop coming, as they would increasingly be caught, not to mention that the economic incentive would subside.
A couple of other helpful tools would be the prohibition of welfare and certain social services for Illegals, not to mention the prohibition of the "anchor baby" amendment.
As I see it, this course, over the long term, will lead to the same thing as doing nothing, albeit will take longer.
There are only a few possible things that can be done. Take note that what I am about to say is not out of intolerance but of a love for country. I've looked long and hard into the problem, and without a plan that has some "meat", all attempts will be to no avail. Therefore, I'll list what needs to be done.
With regard to the illegal aliens already in the country. If the United States Government made a legitimate push to close the borders, and this includes increasing the border patrol 500-1000% or using the military on the borders and only the borders, then we may be able to get a handle on things. That is, if we make sure that our number one priority is our line of defense, then way may not have to go about rounding up illegals.
I would concur that every car be inspected at all border crossings. I am mainly referring to the border crossings with Mexico, for Canadians aren't slipping into our country left and right. Though I do think that border security should be strenthened with the Canadian border. The U.S. Government should put the word out several months to implementation that border checks will become mandatory until otherwise stated. If a worker happens to live in Mexico and works in the United States, and vice versa, they would be eligible to apply for a everyday cross passport with stipulations that he/she is the only person that shall be allowed to pass. Anyone else within the car, will not be admitted. Furthermore, passes will have to be checked monthly to assure that illegals aren't moving into the United States.
The hope is that border crossings will become so complicated that most residents will decide to stay within their own countries and find work there. In fact, daily border crossings have been one of the problems in debacling this whole mess. The goal is self sufficiency.
Meanwhile, the U.S. should pull out of NAFTA, GATT, and tell the Mexican Government that they will have to deal with their own people. Again, self sufficiency.
The last thing that should be done, short of rounding up illegals at their homes, would be to increase the INS in the interior, of which a program will be set in place with a set start and end time. The word will be given out six months in advance to members of certain industries that have been known to hire illegals, that inspections of work sites will begin and will end two to five years later. The inspections will be random, and that each employee should have valid documentation, including a green card, social security card, Immigration documentation, work visa, birth certificate, etc. If the employee is found without certified documentation, or if there is substantial evidence to prove that he/she is in the country illegally, then the worker will face automatic deportation, of which he/she, including illegal family members, will be deported within five days to two weeks. If an employer has been found to have breached the law, he/she will have to pay an expansive fine and possibly face jail time. The goal is that hiring illegals will become too much of risk or burden to employers, that hiring illegals will not be an option.
As you can see, with increased border enforcement, increased interior enforcement, US government speech to Mexican government, withdrawal from NAFT and GATT, along with automatic fines and deportations, the problems would likely subside, as many illegals would deport themselves, many would stop coming, as they would increasingly be caught, not to mention that the economic incentive would subside.
A couple of other helpful tools would be the prohibition of welfare and certain social services for Illegals, not to mention the prohibition of the "anchor baby" amendment.
As far as using the legal system, that may work. However, we must remember that the legal system has yet to work, even when the law is in our favor. As you know, the judgeships are stacked with left wingers. Similar problems arise with attorneys. Even the legislature is filled with a lot of these America-hating or politically correct boobs.
I do agree that we should use the law, but Conservatives have to work within the framework of the law, and we have to bring certain cases before Conservative judges. All official documentation (law) should be provided, and important information such as the costs and benefits of illegal immigration, trends, the backbreak of the American taxpayer, and cultural and social implications, etc. should be noted.
If Conservatives don't drill home the facts, including the law, earlier court cases,costs and benefits, trends, etc., then this will open up the door for Left Wing Socialists to use the same venue to attack the messenger, and we risk losing a lot of ground.
The groups you listed are definitely a problem. They are taking advantage of the human behavior characteristic of individuals wanting think of things according to how it benefits their group. They are no different than the Klan who plays off this same condition and uses it for evil ends, including turning it into a hatefilled message directed towards the "Gringo", whites, blacks, etc.
It's called an extreme form of social identity politics.
As far as these individuals within the House and Senate who want to legalize Illegals, they're using it for unlawful, dishonest, un-American, and selfish ends. They clamor division and votes. The other reasons they push for this insanity include paying off their campaign contributors, of which include multinational corporations who benefit from illegal immigration. I'm sure that some congressmen have family members who benefit from illegal immigration, or they may directly themselves benefit from it. The last reason is directed to those possible members in Congress who are outright communists who wish to see Capitalism dead and the United States fall, and the most powerful nation eventually encased within a world government.
As far as the author's relation to Clarence Manion, could be. However, I don't have enough information to make a point one way or the other.
You are entirely correct about the unsavory aspects of Mexican society being brought here. I do like the food, however.
Of course this is designed. It has been forced onto the American people, and with the obvious evidence of wide open borders and continued amnesty pushes, even after 911, it's a no-brainer that the government isn't working in America's best interests.
Some disagree with the statement that a North American Union, New World Order,etc. is being implemented, but when you look at everything, the push is towards global governance, and the elimination of individual economies, borders and sovereignty.
Wasn't it Bush that called the Mexican border the "New Frontier"?
As far as rewarding Aliens goes, I do think that it sets a bad precedent, for it says, "They (Illegals) get a pass. You, the American Citizen, are not valuable to our goals and, thus, you don't count". When certain laws are not being enforced, it says to the people that laws aren't important. Or, it tells people, "well, the government gets to break that law, so we might as well break the others".
ORIGIN OF THE ANGLO-AMERICANS, AND IMPORTANCE OF THIS ORIGIN IN RELATION TO THEIR FUTURE CONDITION
SOCIAL CONDITION OF THE ANGLO-AMERICANS
PRINCIPAL CAUSES WHICH TEND TO MAINTAIN THE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC IN THE UNITED STATES
From Tocqueville's Democracy in America
Another problem is that, according to the article, newcomers see a boatload of services offered to them in their native language, not to mention social and ethnic groups, politicians, etc. that they don't feel that they have to assimilate. Furthermore, given the multiculturalism nonsense that has been pushed into the mainstream over the past ten years, they tend to believe that it is perfectly acceptable to live and perform as though they were living in Mexico. After all, our government is allowing them to do it, and much of what they heard growing up is how Americans took their land.
It's amazing that our government doesn't even question these people when they go to receive social services, huh? It might offend them, right, or it may be viewed as being too insensitive. You don't want to hurt their feelings, now. Furthermore, they should be entitled to drive that brand new, customized pickup, as well as pay for the groceries courtesy of the taxpayers.
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