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Circumcision Case to Proceed to Trial
Mens News Daily ^ | 8/1/02

Posted on 08/02/2002 12:56:18 PM PDT by Jean S

Berkeley, CA - This month, North Dakota District Judge Cynthia Rothe-Seeger denied a motion for summary judgment by defendants in the Flatt v. Kantak circumcision case, and decided it will proceed to trial on February 3, 2003. The precedent setting decision confirms that a baby who is circumcised can sue his doctor when he reaches age of majority, even if there was parental consent for the circumcision, and even if the results are considered to be 'normal.'

"This is the latest in a series of warnings to doctors who still circumcise: proceed at your peril, because even if you get parental consent and do a standard job of the circumcision, the child can still grow up and sue you for taking away part of his penis," says lawyer J. Steven Svoboda, executive director of Attorneys for the Rights of the Child (ARC).

Like the on-going William Stowell case in New York, this case would be a breakthrough in establishing that circumcision is litigious even where there is no "botch" and "consent" is given, but there are problems with the "consent." In this case, the mother was not informed about the procedure prior to signing the "consent" form. Plaintiff Flatt's attorney Zenas Baer says, "There will be a nine-person jury hearing this precedent setting case. I am optimistic we will be able to have the "informed consent" issue decided by the jury. "

Svoboda said, "This is the second significant legal victory this year, after the case of William Stowell also survived summary judgment and is proceeding to trial. Both cases will establish that, even where the procedure is performed at the professional standard, a circumcision is litigious if the consent is not informed."

Baer added, "The court also observed that, in an informed consent case, the type of information to be disclosed to a parent is a 'standard set by law for physicians rather than one which physicians may or may not impose upon themselves.' This is a huge statement and will put the physicians in their place if we can convince nine reasonable people that the physicians failed to give adequate information."

Marilyn Milos, Director of NOCIRC, an organization that seeks to end routine infant circumcision in North America, says, "Female genital mutilation has been outlawed, and we need the law to set the standard here, too, followed by aggressive educational programs. Parents and doctors need to know that this is a harm that lasts a lifetime."

Svoboda stated "The foundation is well laid for lawsuits. Doctors who are still doing circumcisions are already investing in a lot of trouble, and this case will make their troubles worse. They just have to wait 18 years until that baby grows up, and they're in for a lawsuit. An army of lawyers will be there with this precedent and many more in their arsenal."

This landmark case brings into question whether a physician can remove healthy, normal tissue from unconsenting minors for non-therapeutic reasons, and whether a parent can legally consent to a medically non-indicated surgery for a minor child. Svoboda is convinced that this case will have a major impact on circumcision in the U.S. "Doctors ignore a lot of medical literature," he said, "and they ignore the screams of the babies, but they listen when they hear the word 'malpractice.' As a lawyer willing to sue, I' ve never had a doctor not listen to me."

Arizona and Missouri have recently dropped Medicaid funding for circumcision, joining six states, and other states are considering similar steps. The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) first acknowledged that there was no medical justification for routine circumcision in 1971. In 1999, the AAP reaffirmed that it does not recommend routine circumcision. The American Medical Association concurred in 2000, calling routine circumcision "non-therapeutic." No national or international medical organization recommends routine circumcision. The United States is the only country that continues to circumcise the majority of its newborns for non-religious reasons. As parents have become more educated about the surgery, the circumcision rate in the US has fallen to 57%.

For More Information Contact:

Zenas Baer, J.D.
Attorney for Joshiah Flatt,
218-483-3372,
zbaer@zbaer.com

J. Steven Svoboda, J.D. Executive Director,
Attorneys for the Rights of the Child,
510-595-5550
arc@post.harvard.edu
www.arclaw.org

Marilyn Milos, RN Director,
NOCIRC,
415-488-9883,
nocirc@cris.com

www.nocirc.org


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: informedconsent; triallawyers
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To: Motherbear
Yes, me too. It was done to me when I was 10 and I sure didn't like it.
21 posted on 08/02/2002 1:23:43 PM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Motherbear
I think I'm going to sue my parents for having my ears pierced when I was eleven. I was still a minor.

No, don't sue your parents. Sue the professional who pierced your ears, who should have known better than to let your parents make decisions regarding their own minor child.

22 posted on 08/02/2002 1:24:44 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: JeanS
I missed out on the tobacco lawsuits, don't qualify for the fast food case... at last, I have a ticket in the legal lottery! I am suddenly feeling such emotional pain over my loss! Of course it was my parents, not the doctor, who were responsible for this butchery, but I guess I will keep quiet on that point.
23 posted on 08/02/2002 1:26:58 PM PDT by SupplySider
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To: Delbert
I know how you feel. But my dad explained that my as-born condition would damage the self-esteem of my peers when I went on to glory in team sports. Thus, he ordered the doctor to circumsize me, for the greater good.
24 posted on 08/02/2002 1:28:02 PM PDT by SteamshipTime
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To: JeanS
Can a wife sue her inlaws for not circumcizing her husband who subsequently gave her infections or cervical cancer?
25 posted on 08/02/2002 1:28:16 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: andy_card
I support radical, mandatory, unanaesthetized circumcision for lawyers who file the most frivolous law suits. And you can interpret the "radical" part any way you'd like.

More support here.

26 posted on 08/02/2002 1:29:39 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Texas_Jarhead
And the PETA crowd that would ban kosher slaughter isn't far behind.
27 posted on 08/02/2002 1:38:42 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: JeanS
I gotta discuss this with my mohel.

--Boris

29 posted on 08/02/2002 1:42:34 PM PDT by boris
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To: SteamshipTime
Your father was a wise man....your sacrifice is commedable!
30 posted on 08/02/2002 1:43:49 PM PDT by Delbert
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To: Delbert
commendable!..(I hate when that happens.)

31 posted on 08/02/2002 1:46:41 PM PDT by Delbert
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To: JeanS
The precedent setting decision confirms that a baby who is circumcised can sue his doctor when he reaches age of majority, even if there was parental consent for the circumcision, and even if the results are considered to be 'normal.'

Waiting for the time when an abortion victim can sue.

32 posted on 08/02/2002 1:50:06 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: JeanS
Lawyer J. Steven Svoboda, executive director of Attorneys for the Rights of the Child (ARC) is a sufferer of CSON

Circumcision Scars On Neck

33 posted on 08/02/2002 1:53:22 PM PDT by laredo44
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To: JeanS
I wonder how the "anti-ageing" docs will fare when trial lawyers start going after them for pushing "dangerous" hormone therapy. Makes no difference where the truth lies -- only what you can get a jury to believe.
34 posted on 08/02/2002 1:56:00 PM PDT by js1138
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Note: If you plant the removed foreskin in potting soil and water it daily...

it will grow up to be an attorney.

Nahh, attorneys are no where near that useful!!!!

35 posted on 08/02/2002 2:07:30 PM PDT by T Wayne
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To: Motherbear
Good idea. And I'm gonna sue whoever cut my umbilical cord. I've had to live all these years with an outtie when I would have preferred an innie.
36 posted on 08/02/2002 2:07:51 PM PDT by Zack Attack
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To: leadpenny
The text is very self-serving and misleading. First, the case is not "precedent setting" until it goes to judgment and is subsequently dealt with in a published appellate court opinion. Second, all that was at stake here was a summary judgment motion. In a SJ motion the moving party essentially says "All of the important facts necessary for me to prevail are undisputed. I should therefore get judgment without having to go to trial." Summary judgment was denied here, and that simply means that one or more of the critical facts is properly dipsuted. Without knowing which fact(s) those are, the press release has no informative value at all - it's just propaganda.
37 posted on 08/02/2002 2:14:10 PM PDT by j.havenfarm
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To: laredo44
Thats why lawyers wear neckties, it holds the foreskin back.
38 posted on 08/02/2002 2:17:25 PM PDT by evolved_rage
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To: JeanS
Sent to me via e-mail, they claim it is true. I don’t know, but funny.......

Now this is JUSTICE !

A Charlotte, NC lawyer purchased a box of very rare and expensive cigars and then insured them against fire among other things. Within a month, having smoked his entire stockpile of these great cigars, the lawyer filed a claim;against the insurance company. In his claim, the lawyer stated the cigars were lost "in a series of small fires."

The insurance company refused to pay, citing the obvious reason that the man had consumed the cigars in the normal fashion.

The lawyer sued and won! In delivering the ruling the judge agreed with the insurance company that the claim was frivolous. The Judge stated nevertheless, that the lawyer held a policy from the company in which it had warranted that the cigars were insurable and also guaranteed that it would insure them against fire, without defining what is considered to be "unacceptable fire," and WAS obligated to pay the claim. Rather than endure a lengthy and costly appeal process, the insurance company accepted the ruling and paid $15,000.00 to the lawyer for his loss of the rare cigars lost in the "fires."

NOW FOR THE BEST PART.

After the lawyer cashed the check, the insurance company had him arrested on 24 counts of ARSON!

With his own insurance claim and testimony from the previous case being used against him, the lawyer was convicted of intentionally burning his insured property and he was sentenced to 24 months in jail and ordered to pay a $24,000 fine.

NOTE: This is a true story was the 1st place winner in the Criminal Lawyers Award Contest.

39 posted on 08/02/2002 2:22:20 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: onedoug; Texas_Jarhead
And the PETA crowd that would ban kosher slaughter isn't far behind.

The PETA crowd would not mind kosher slaughter techniques so long as it was Jews being slaughtered not animals.

40 posted on 08/02/2002 2:23:43 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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