[tonycavanagh]

With the amount of crime happening in America, I have to admit I am somewhat puzzled about the amount of FR time spent debateing crime in Britian.

I guess one way to ignore your own problems is to concentrate on other peoples.

Cheeers Tony

[tonycavanagh]

I have in fact used unreasable force against a street attacker, when the polioce questioned me I stated that it was he not I who had the iron bar and that I got it of him purley by luck, and when I whacked him with it, I didnt mean to I was only trying to frighten him away. If you beat someone up then tell then the police they will have to act, as I know they do in America

Cheers Tony

[from occupied ga]

With the amount of crime happening in America, I have to admit I am somewhat puzzled about the amount of FR time spent debateing crime in Britian.

Your socialist island makes an excellent bad example. Because many of the neo national socialists in the Congress and the media envision the same sort of draconian controls here, it never hurts to show what a cock up the British have made of their society regarding guns, crime and self defense.

[dirtboy]

With the amount of crime happening in America, I have to admit I am somewhat puzzled about the amount of FR time spent debateing crime in Britian.

Uh, Tony, from the article:

Did you know that a person's chances of being mugged in London are six times higher than in New York City?

Did you know that assault, robbery and burglary rates are far higher in England than in the United States

Considering how low-crime Britain used to be, it's a good object lesson to see how criminalizing self-defense leads to significantly increased crime. That ol' Law of Unintended Consequences.

I guess one way to ignore your own problems is to concentrate on other peoples

I guess one way to dodge your own problems is try and make a moral equivalence with a far less significant problem. The Clintons were very adept at that.

[JimRed]

With the amount of crime happening in America, I have to admit I am somewhat puzzled about the amount of FR time spent debateing crime in Britian.

We learn by example. "Coming to a city near you...."

[FreedomPoster]

We are not ignoring our own crime; rather, we are pointing out a vivid example, England, that shows that less guns / self defense equals more crime. Our gun grabbers would have the sheeple believe that low-gun-ownership-rate Europe and, specifically, the UK, are a crime-free utopia. It's simply convenient to use recent statistics to show the fallacy in this argument. We also use the example of DC, Chicago, and California, but then the leftists claim that "gun smugglers" bring in enough guns from red zone areas to create a "gun crime" problem despite blue zone restrictions. The example of your islands really shows the bankruptcy of this line of argument.

BTW, welcome back. I don't always agree with what you post, but enjoy your perspective.

[maica]

When stupid actions and the consequences of them hit a critical mass, even the least politically-tuned-in become aware.

The consequences of disarming citizens, criminalizing self-defense, and tolerating marauding yout's have finally gotten the attention of enough American people that policies will change.

Your government was very effective in incrementally removing all firearms from households. We have a body of political activists who want that to happen here.

The idea of citizens abdicating their self-protection to "the government" is being realized as not possible by larger and larger groups of Americans.

We live in hope that farmers living in remote areas, or anyone else, will not become easy pickings in the US

PS: The same yout's who look on the defenceless as nothing but their own personal piggy bank, shout the loudest and longest about police brutality if they do, by some freak accident, happen to get caught by "law enforcement officers."

[Tribune7]

It depends on where you are in America. Most of it is fairly crime free, more so today than 20 years ago.

[junta]

True. We could lower our crime rate dramatically but it would take a complete rework of the social and political landscape and for now it cant be done because the criminal underclass and its sources are the Left's pets and the Right is fixated on the Middle East not Middle America.

[SauronOfMordor]

With the amount of crime happening in America, I have to admit I am somewhat puzzled about the amount of FR time spent debating crime in Britian.

For many years, Americans had been subjected to screeds about how much lower is in England compared to "gun-crazy" US, accompanied by demands that the US disarm its civilians

We're now observing what happens to the crime rate when a country disarms its civilians, and makes it a crime to defend oneself. Part of what we're seeing is attributable to disarmament, another part to the changing racial and ethnic makeup of England (eg, influx of Muslims from Pakistan, and Jamaican "Yardie" drug gangs)