Oklahoma Bombing and 911 link;White House Asked to Respond!

Worldnetdaily ^ | 7/31/02 | Wordl Net Daily

[OPS4]

WND also asked Fleischer:

WND: Both the L.A. Weekly as well as WorldNetDaily report that our government is ignoring or hiding an Oklahoma City connection between Zacarias Moussaoui and 9-11 skyjacker Mohamed Atta because it might raise questions about the rush to close the books on the Murrah Building bombing, which was charged exclusively to Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. And my question: Will the president ask the FBI to investigate reports that McVeigh and several Iraqis were guests at a motel just outside Oklahoma City just before the Murrah Building bombing in 1995? FLEISCHER: Lester, I'm not aware of any of these reports, and these matters are handled by the investigators.

WND: I'd be glad to send you statements on that, if you would take that question and get back to me, Ari.

FLEISCHER: I'm sure you will.

[Shermy]

But who knows, soon ballots will be computerized & then we have lost all control of candidates.

Yep. These "touch" machines, even internet "voting" are great dangers.

[OPS4]

Every now and then every new service has some questionable info. Worldnetdaily has much more fact than fiction, as compared to CNN, ABC, NBC, Etc. they like to use exclusion.
Mostly excluding the facts.

Worldnetdaily has the best track record I have found to
date.

Ops4 God Bless America!!!

[elfman2]

"Every now and then every new service has some questionable info. "

Okay then, "frequently". I was being kind. And judging from the moderators removal of this "Breaking News" from the list, your opinion's in the minority.

[Always Right]

Both the L.A. Weekly as well as WorldNetDaily report that our government is ignoring or hiding an Oklahoma City connection....

I think the White House might be waiting for someone a little more credible like The Enquirer.

[PJ-Comix]

So what happened to Jose Padilla? He has been kept completely under wraps ever since his capture a couple of months ago. Remember, Padilla and Timothy McVeigh lived within just a few miles of each other in Broward County, FL early in 1993.

[OPS4]

Well, it still on the front page and I still saw it breaking, however I find 6 stories right now posted from Worldnetdaily on the forum, so I would disagree and say that your opinion is in the minority among the Freepers.

But then again, It sounds like now you are saying that
Worldnetdaily is not credible? I am glad you were not kind everyone has an opinion, and now we know yours.
Ops4 God Bless America!!!

[300winmag]

I expected this to be a house cleaning [or fumigating] administration, and a much needed one at that. No way did I expect business as usual with regard to coverups, etc.

This is just my opinion, but I think Bush has found out that the criminality, and the illegal powers, of the klintons are so vast that they and their stooges cannot be brought to justice without risking a civil war. The klintons still have the FBI files (they probably get daily updates). They own all the establishment media, elite universities, and Hollywood. The klinton secret police, while now smaller, is still functional. Bill and Hitlery are still worshipped as gods.

Bush is not going to risk a civil war, which he has no guarantee of winning, along with a war against islam. I suspect he's resigned himself to the fact that 55% of the American people want things this way.

[OPS4]

The White House had responded to Worldnetdaily and LA Weekly as far as the Tabloids, who cares, that is not where ARI was answering the question too. Trying to compare Worldnetdaily to the enquirer seems to be a ploy.

Credible reporting at Worldnetdaily, has roused a lot of
hungry foxes out of the Government Hen House.
God Bless America!!!

[Quilla]

I consider WorldNetDaily a credible source - Insight Magazine as well. Check out this article that recently appeared in Insight entitled "Clinton Ignored Iraqi Links to Oklahoma City". The article makes perfect sense and may have lead many a sheeple into voting for Clinton the second time around.

http://insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=detail&storyid=258777

One thing to consider though, just because Ari or the White House aren't talking about this to the press doesn't necessarily mean they aren't looking into it. They may not want to scare the cockroaches still here back into the woodwork.

[LisaFab]

Has it occurred to anyone that this possibility has been followed up on? And that if it has lead anywhere that we might be watching the bad actors covertly?

[OPS4]

I agree 100%, but the dialogue, could have been "we are looking into it" and not act the part of the uknowing, out of the LOOP, representative at the White House, and then lead on to the investigators, if there are investigators on it then say so. Just my thoughts.
Ops4 God Bless America!

[OPS4]

I think Bush and Cheney had a very good idea of the depth of corruption awhile ago, they didnt just come in from Isolation when they entered the race to begin with. George senior and Cheney had more intel than anyone in the U.S.

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[elfman2]

" I find 6 stories right now posted from Worldnetdaily on the forum, so I would disagree and say that your opinion is in the minority among the Freepers. "

Not WND reporter charges in Breaking News. The administrator seems to agree that they don't have that level of credibility. You're fee to post it, but this forum isn't going to be turned into a promotion tool for that.

[OPS4]

As I said, the issue is Worldnetdaily is a credible source and will be posted here by many Freepers. I could care less if the moderator agrees or disagrees. The fact is the Freepers are reponding and posting this news at sites all over the World Wide Web.

Maybe Joe Farah needs to ask the Moderator his opinion?
Ops4 God Bless America!

[Mudboy Slim]

"Bush said that he'd be "a uniter, not a divider."

By giving Equal Justice Under the Law short shrift?! Nawww, I don't recall that pledge. There are many Enemies of the State living within our borders, and most are/were attracted to the CorruptClintonAdministration, wherein the Levers of Power were auctioned off to anyone with cash. It is not divisive to demand that LawBreakers are held accountable, IMHO.

FReegards...MUD

[AnnaZ]

I think the White House might be waiting for someone a little more credible like The Enquirer.

Someone like these guys?

 

  » Published at http://www.indystar.com.

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JAMES PATTERSON

Ex-CIA agent believes in a John Doe 2 

March 23, 2002

Though the U.S. government clings to the notion that Timothy McVeigh, acting alone, set off the horrendous explosion on April 19, 1995, that pancaked the nine-story Oklahoma City federal building, a former high-ranking CIA official says there's solid evidence to indicate he worked with an Iraqi John Doe No. 2.

Larry Johnson, former CIA officer and deputy director of the State Department's Office of Counterterrorism, told a network news show this week the FBI had failed to properly investigate significant eyewitness accounts of McVeigh meeting with the man believed to be a former Iraqi soldier.

Johnson made those comments on The Big Story with John Gibson, a Fox news program airing nightly at 5 p.m., which delved into an extensive dossier on the case compiled by former Oklahoma TV reporter Jayna Davis. The program aired just days after a lawsuit filed by the watchdog organization Judicial Watch that alleges Iraqi involvement in the Oklahoma City bombing and seeks compensation for victims from frozen Iraqi assets.

Davis, who reported from Ground Zero in Oklahoma City for NBC-affiliate KFOR, broadcast a series suggesting a possible accomplice to the bombing who had been seen with McVeigh on the days leading up to and the day of the bombing. Gibson unabashedly reported Davis' work to a national TV audience on three consecutive days this week.

On Monday, Gibson relayed that Davis' evidence is based "on the simple proposition that Tim McVeigh's John Doe 2 was an Iraqi, a former Iraqi soldier from the Gulf War, paroled into the U.S. under a claim of political asylum, known to be in Oklahoma City as of November of '94 almost a year before the Murrah bombing, spotted with McVeigh by multiple witnesses, and who in recent years was working at (Boston) Logan airport," where the Sept. 11 hijackings originated.

On Tuesday, Gibson posed the question to Johnson about a possible link between Iraq and Oklahoma City.

"I think this woman (Davis) has done a remarkable job of finding a link that was overlooked," Johnson said. Johnson also commented on a Justice Department review of the thousands of documents that resurfaced or were destroyed, delaying McVeigh's execution for a month.

"The FBI . . ., they still have not turned over all of the documents to the defense teams that came out of Oklahoma," he said. "In particular, the information that links, shows possible links to Middle Eastern subjects."

KFOR's reports distorted the face of one of those suspects and did not name him. However, on his own volition, a former Iraqi soldier who claims he surrendered to the U.S. in the Gulf War and who was brought to the United States from a refugee camp in Saudi Arabia, stepped forward and identified himself to two other Oklahoma City TV stations and The Associated Press as the man that KFOR had implicated as John Doe No. 2.

Hussain Hashem Alhussaini sued KFOR and Davis for defamation, saying the reports falsely identified him as John Doe No. 2. But a U.S. District Court disagreed. In ruling for KFOR, U.S. District Judge Timothy Leonard found in November 1999 that the station had taken extraordinary measures to hide Alhussaini's identity.

Leonard added that KFOR's reports were either "based on fact or a matter of opinion," and not negligence or reckless disregard for the truth. Alhussaini, who went to work at Boston's Logan International Airport after leaving Oklahoma City, continues to deny any involvement in the bombing. Former CIA Agent Johnson is unconvinced.

"I compared it to all the human intelligence I've looked at," he said. "And comparing it to classified material, this is not from just one witness, this is not from two witnesses; you're talking 23 people, you're talking at least 10 people who put Tim McVeigh with Hussain Alhussaini before the Oklahoma City bombing.

"Two people who identified Hussain Alhussaini and Tim McVeigh in a bar on April 15; three people who identified Hussain Alhussaini running from the federal building early in the morning at 5:30 as if he is practicing timing himself. You have two witnesses that put Tim McVeigh with Hussain Alhussaini in the Ryder truck; you have one witness inside the Murrah Building who sees Hussain Alhussaini eating out of the truck . . .

"The point is the FBI has not thoroughly, fully investigated this. It is an outrage. I went along for many years thinking they have covered the bases. They have not, John."

You can't say Davis didn't try. She tried to give the witness statements to the FBI in the fall of '97, but it wouldn't take them.

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Patterson is a Star editorial writer. Contact him at 1-317-444-6174 or by e-mail at james.patterson@indystar.com

 

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OKLAHOMA BOMBING LINKED TO BIN LADEN

 http://www.aim.org/publications/weekly_column/2001/11/21.html

 

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and this:

Get Ready for Twenty World Trade Center Bombings: http://www.meforum.org/meq/june97/emerson.shtml

Excerpt:

MEQ: How did you find this topic, which, other than your efforts, has been virtually invisible to the American public?

Emerson: I actually stumbled across it quite by accident. In December 1992 I was a correspondent with CNN and on assignment in Oklahoma City to do some interviews on another subject entirely. On Christmas Day I found myself with nothing to do. While looking for a fast-food restaurant, I passed a convention center where I saw thousands of Muslims dressed in traditional garb congregating in the streets and entering the center. At first, my own ignorance led me to think they might be extras on a movie set.

When I went inside, I discovered what was really going on. Radical groups were openly declaring themselves to be Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and Hizbullah, and even Gama`a Islamiya (Omar Abdel Rahman's group in Egypt). They made absolutely no effort to hide their identity or their agendas. Just going to the stalls I collected a phenomenal amount of material, some of which I have subsequently showed on national television. Alarmed, I called a FBI official in Washington to see if it was aware of their existence. I was even more shocked to discover the FBI did not know this conference was taking place.

 

[elfman2]

"Maybe Joe Farah needs to ask the Moderator his opinion? "

Joe Farah's in the business of selling subscriptions to the fired up fringe and keeping them buzzing. FR, despite its inclusion of that group, is a little more discriminating in what it allows in it's Breaking News headline.

[FReepaholic]

>>...did you EVER, in your wildest dreams, expect or anticipate the way the corruption would be allowed to continue, and the way Bush & Ashcroft would protect the same evil forces we here all (naively) fought so hard against during clintons tenure?...<<

Yes. But I voted for him anyway.

You see, they are ALL members of the same "fraternity".

[GOP_1900AD]

Don't forget, Bush Jr., like Beezlebubba, Hitlery and Bore, is also one who came of age during the 1960s. You can take the boy out of the "flower power" but you can't take the "flower power" out of the boy. The way I see it, it will take another 10 years (if we survive) before things really start to change as the 1980s college classes who voted for Ronald Reagan in droves and were a truly clean cut bunch, take over and start to clean out the rat infested darkness created by the failed Baby Boomer subculture.

[OPS4]

elfman2, You just love bashing Worldnetdaily. The point is Ari was asked a question at a news briefing and you have turned this into a Worldnetdaily Bashing site. We still Demand an answer on what is being done about this 9-11 Oklahoma question. We all want to know.

Lets stay on point!

Soon to come, a poll for all you Freepers, who thinks Worldnetdaily is credible. Watch for it.
Ops4 God Bless America.