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Sources: No bodyguards, no bin Laden
CNN ^ | Kelli Arena and Barbara Starr

Posted on 07/30/2002 6:32:51 PM PDT by StopDemocratsDotCom

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:00:56 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Some members of Osama bin Laden's security detail have been captured and are among the detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, U.S. officials told CNN Tuesday.

Sources believe that if the bodyguards were captured away from bin Laden, it is likely the most-wanted man in the world is dead. The sources said the guards have been in custody since February.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: binladen; bodyguards; osamabinladen
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This theory is pretty interesting, ..is he dead?
1 posted on 07/30/2002 6:32:51 PM PDT by StopDemocratsDotCom
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With a mountain-size ego like Bin Laden had, there is no way (IMO), that he could stay incognito this long, unless the 72 (former) virgins are keeping him too busy.

The former Bin Laden, terrorist extraordinaire, is now Bin Laden, plant and worm food, Ltd.

2 posted on 07/30/2002 6:42:20 PM PDT by Don Carlos
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It seems to me that if he were dead somebody would have dragged in his putrid remains to claim the $25mill.
3 posted on 07/30/2002 6:42:31 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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Ding dong the witch is dead... the wicked witch is dead!!!
4 posted on 07/30/2002 6:47:52 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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It seems to me that if he were dead somebody would have dragged in his putrid remains to claim the $25mill.

Depends on how much rock fell on him. Right at this moment somebody in Afghanistan may be "digging for buried treasure."

a.cricket

5 posted on 07/30/2002 6:48:13 PM PDT by another cricket
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To: clintonh8r
A true Bin Laden video appearance would give his followers and sympathizers a psychological boost. That is unless he is so injured or disease ridden that his appearance may actually demoralize his faithful.

The fact that he has not been seen for months tells me that he is either dead or is in pretty bad shape.

6 posted on 07/30/2002 6:50:32 PM PDT by PrairieFire
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7 posted on 07/30/2002 6:50:33 PM PDT by Texasforever
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I think he is dead. But I think this logic is... um, strange?
Sources believe that if the bodyguards were captured away from bin Laden, it is likely the most-wanted man in the world is dead.
He would be dead because his bodyguards would be near him if he was alive, which means we blew him up... but if we blew him up, wouldn't they have been near him and have been blown up too?

Where's your sargeant, soldier?

Blown up SIR!

8 posted on 07/30/2002 6:50:54 PM PDT by Dales
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To: clintonh8r
It seems to me that if he were dead somebody would have dragged in his putrid remains to claim the $25mill.

They might not be able to get the heavy equipment needed to dig up the several thousand tons of mountain on top of him.
9 posted on 07/30/2002 6:53:57 PM PDT by BJClinton
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To: Texasforever
LOL! I haven't seen that one before. It's terrific!
10 posted on 07/30/2002 6:57:51 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: Don Carlos
Perhaps someone can shed some light on this for me....you die a martyr and you get 72 virgins. Thats cool. But what do you do the second week? And then, do you have to marry them? Because 72 wives, with synchronized hormones is NOT my idea of heaven. Can you get more virgins? I need some answers to these questions.
11 posted on 07/30/2002 6:59:34 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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Yep, one of those laser-guided bombs must have felt like a house fell on him.
12 posted on 07/30/2002 7:00:28 PM PDT by Robear
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I for one have believed that Binnie has been cavorting with the 72-year old virgin for some time now, at least since September. Call it the Che Guevara theory.

We never wanted to actually kill Che. We had plenty of opportunities. The Congo was a perfect opportunity. But we didn't want to martyr the SOB.

Same with Bin Laden. Why provide a martyr figure for the Arab ummaa? Let the masses wonder where he went, and why he is so strangely silent. Let them also wonder why the Americans won't say anything about him.

Usamaa has left the building. He had a blind date with a woman named Daisy Cutter.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

13 posted on 07/30/2002 7:03:18 PM PDT by section9
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I've seen it suggested that there was an error in the translations, and the actual promise is 72-year old virgins...
14 posted on 07/30/2002 7:03:19 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Dales
but if we blew him up, wouldn't they have been near him and have been blown up too?

--unless his bodyguards had a sudden glimpse of mortality and boogied.

--leaving bin Laden to leave the building solo.

. . .after all, these are scum who treat women worse than beasts of burden. . . .

. . .and whose idea of warfighting is cowardly ambush of civilians. . . .

--so, I suggest they deserted their principal, leaving him to die in daisy-cutterville.

Put them in the Yuri I. Nosenko suite--with a Sears DieHard--and find out.

15 posted on 07/30/2002 7:04:23 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: Robear
Strange things happen in Trashcanistan. Maybe he just fired them like Karzai did.
16 posted on 07/30/2002 7:06:19 PM PDT by meenie
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To: clintonh8r
It seems to me that if he were dead somebody would have dragged in his putrid remains to claim the $25mill.

Looking at the FBI wanted web page on bin Laden (http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm), it does not appear to me to be a dead or alive type of reward. However, it does seem likely anyway that you are right -- someone would try to claim the reward, or, more likely, would brag that they were not claiming it, thus showing their loyalty to the cause. If bin Laden died without his followers quickly announcing it, that would be one of the most bizarre endings to the life of a historical figure on record. I figure that bin Laden is laying low out of humiliation over not having a big follow-up to 9/11 yet, and is planning to let his deeds speak for him next.

The story at the head of this thread is a little strange. Why are these officials just leaking this now when they captured the bodyguards in February? And why would bin Laden's son know his whereabouts, and be willing to tell his captors about it, any more than would the bodyguards? I don't suppose our side uses truth serum. Maybe, on non-uniformed combatants, we should.

17 posted on 07/30/2002 7:07:11 PM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Vermont Lt
Excellent question! Someone way above my pay grade will have to come up with the answer to that.

I wondered about this 72 virgin thingy myself, you know, like what if he played around a little bit and ...Oh, never mind!

18 posted on 07/30/2002 7:08:08 PM PDT by Don Carlos
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Let the masses wonder where he went, and why he is so strangely silent. Let them also wonder why the Americans won't say anything about him.

Works for me.

19 posted on 07/30/2002 7:20:03 PM PDT by Aquinasfan
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I've been reluctant to buy into the bin Laden's death theory. After all. He's fooled us before.

But considering what one video tape could do to reignite al Queda passions, I'm thinking (quietly) that binnee boy is a grease spot on the hills of Tora Bora.

20 posted on 07/30/2002 7:24:57 PM PDT by GVnana
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