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A bone to pick: Missing link is evolutionists' weakest
Houston Chronical via WorldNetDaily ^ | July 26 | Jeff Farmer

Posted on 07/29/2002 6:35:04 PM PDT by Tribune7

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A bone to pick: Missing link is evolutionists' weakest By JEFF FARMER

It has been said that if anyone wants to see something badly enough, they can see anything, in anything. Such was the case recently, but unlike some ghostly visage of the Madonna in a coffee stain, this was a vision of our ancestral past in the form of one recently discovered prehistoric skull, dubbed Sahelanthropus tchadensis.

Papers across the globe heralded the news with great fanfare. With words like "scientists hailed" and "startling find" sprinkled into the news coverage, who couldn't help but think evolutionists had finally found their holy grail of missing links?

For those of us with more than a passing interest in such topics as, "Where did we come from? And how did we get here?," this recent discovery and its subsequent coverage fall far short of its lofty claims. A healthy criticism is in order.

Practically before the fossil's discoverer, the French paleoanthropologist Michel Brunet, could come out of the heat of a Chadian desert, a number of his evolutionary colleagues had questioned his conclusions.

In spite of the obvious national pride, Brigitte Senut of the Natural History of Paris sees Brunet's skull as probably that of an ancient female gorilla and not the head of man's earliest ancestor. While looking at the same evidence, such as the skull's flattened face and shorter canine teeth, she draws a completely different conclusion.

Of course, one might be inclined to ask why such critiques never seem to get the same front-page coverage? It's also important to point out that throughout history, various species, such as cats, have had varying lengths of canine teeth. That does not make them any closer to evolving into another species.

A Washington Post article goes on to describe this latest fossil as having human-like traits, such as tooth enamel thicker than a chimpanzee's. This apparently indicates that it did not dine exclusively on the fruit diet common to apes. But apes don't dine exclusively on fruit; rather, their diet is supplemented with insects, birds, lizards and even the flesh of monkeys. The article attempted to further link this fossil to humans by stating that it probably walked upright. Never mind the fact that no bones were found below the head! For all we know, it could have had the body of a centaur, but that would hardly stop an overzealous scientist (or reporter) from trying to add a little meat to these skimpy bones. Could it not simply be a primate similar to today's Bonobo? For those not keeping track of their primates, Bonobos (sp. Pan paniscus) are chimpanzee-like creatures found only in the rain forests of Zaire. Their frame is slighter than that of a chimpanzee's and their face does not protrude as much. They also walked upright about 5 percent of the time. Sound familiar?

Whether it is tooth enamel, length of canines or the ability to walk upright, none of these factors makes this recent discovery any more our ancestral candidate than it does a modern-day Bonobo.

So why does every new fossil discovery seem to get crammed into some evolutionary scenario? Isn't it possible to simply find new, yet extinct, species? The answer, of course, is yes; but there is great pressure to prove evolution.

That leads us to perhaps the most troubling and perplexing aspect of this latest evolutionary hoopla. While on one hand sighting the evolutionary importance of this latest discovery, a preponderance of these articles leave the notion that somehow missing links are not all that important any more.

According to Harvard anthropologist Dan Lieberman, missing links are pretty much myths. That might be a convenient conclusion for those who have been unable to prove evolution via the fossil record. Unfortunately for them, links are absolutely essential to evolution. It is impossible for anything to evolve into another without a linear progression of these such links.

The prevailing evolutionary view of minute changes, over millions of years, is wholly inadequate for the explanation of such a critical piece of basic locomotion as the ball-and-socket joint. Until such questions can be resolved, superficial similarities between various species are not going to prove anything. No matter how bad someone wants to see it.

Farmer is a professional artist living in Houston. He can can be contacted via his Web site, www.theglobalzoo.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bone; crevolist; darwinism; evolution; farmer; mediahype; sahelanthropus
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To: Junior
LBB had claimed to Slim that the leader of the Vaticani was still a Morton, but that his words had been mistranslated to show otherwise. Slim knew not to trust LBB on anything.
681 posted on 08/04/2002 9:02:07 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
I think it's a Rattus nadleri geroldus.

Press here.

682 posted on 08/04/2002 9:03:19 AM PDT by balrog666
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To: VadeRetro
Many are neutral and many have been shown positive. Here's one example. Here's another.

There are many examples of supposedly duplicate genes. However, none have been experimentally shown to add anything to the species. Specifically a new gene needs to be expressed, controlled and called on to act by the rest of the organism, it needs to be expressed. That there are so many apparent duplicates and yet no one seems to be able to experimentally get a new duplicate to work is clear proof against evolution. In fact, real scientists are loath to say that a duplicate does indeed work. The two citations, one from your buddy Lindsay who is an absolute joke and says anything is a fact without substantiation and the other from a magazine do not contradict my statements.

1) The duplication may be helpful right off the bat.
2) Parents in sexual species very frequently have more than one child. Mine did. If a lizard has 40 offspring in one litter, maybe 20 of them carry a given parental gene.
3) Now that you have two copies of the gene, one can change. Yes, some mutations, perhaps most, are harmful but that's what natural selection weeds out.

1. extremely doubtful due to what I said above. In addition, even if it gave a somewhat better survival ability it would have to more than double it to get above the 100% chance of replication needed for it to in any way become fixed in a species. (see below).
2. Number of children does not matter because it is a question of population genetics. You know quite well that I have totally demolished that argument since I have posted it more than once. Here it is again:


As I have been pointing out, family size does not matter so long as it is the same as the average family size of the species. You can use any number you like and you will see that the new trait will dissappear. Since you like big numbers we shall use ten children each generation in a rather small species of only 1000 individuals:

Generation 1: 1 mutant and 999 non-mutants
Generation 2: 5 mutants and 9995 non-mutants
Generation 3: 25 mutants and 99975 non-mutants
Generation 4: 125 mutants and 999875 non-mutants
Generation 5: 625 mutants and 9999375 non-mutants


We started with mutants as .1% of the population, we ended with mutants as .0625% of the population. So obviously the mutation is losing ground, not gaining it as evolution would require.

And in addition to the above you can look at Andrew's Post#1641 Where using the craddle of evolutionism, the most biased site on the internet for evolution, TalkOrigins, he shows that even those folk refute your statement.


3. See my paragraph above.

Evolution postulates that a population changes over time, but it stays integrated and fully functional even as it drifts or else it will die out.

What evolutionary theory postulates is proof of nothing. It is the truth of those postulates which is what these threads are about, so your statement above is meaningless. Science and logic argue against that postulate. That a whole species would coevolve gradually through a bunch of mutations without becoming separate is itself a logical argument against evolution. The scientific arguments against it are presented in my post #347 and still stand unrefuted.

683 posted on 08/04/2002 9:32:45 AM PDT by gore3000
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To: VadeRetro; Junior
Slim also was growing concerned about the bad case of fleas he had picked up from that feline bartender back at the Crosstime Saloon. All he had in his first-aid kit was some WD-40, which wasn't doing him much good; somehow he had left his can of Raid at home. Ah well, he thought, those are the perils of interstellar relations.
684 posted on 08/04/2002 9:33:09 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
Slim didn't like to overdose with the WD-40. He hated being called "Slick."
685 posted on 08/04/2002 9:40:00 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry
The Model THX-1138 precipitated out of hyperspace in orbit around Vaticanus IV. The system was the nexus of hundreds of hyperspace nodes, and its starport at Romanus serviced thousands of vessels from all over the galaxy -- leading to the oft quoted axiom, "all nodes lead to Romanus."
686 posted on 08/04/2002 9:42:45 AM PDT by Junior
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To: Junior
"all nodes lead to Romanus."

If LBB's missing integrity were to be found anywhere, Slim told himself, it would be here. But where to begin? Then his sensors picked up an odd patch of blue on the planet's surface ...

687 posted on 08/04/2002 9:50:02 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
If LBB's missing integrity were to be found anywhere,

It is your integrity that is missing. You constantly accuse without substantiation. You constantly insult gratuitously. You constantly take phrases out of context and misquote what opponents say. You constantly use character assassination instead of refuting points made by opponents.

688 posted on 08/04/2002 10:16:24 AM PDT by gore3000
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To: PatrickHenry
Suddenly, a surge of blue static washed over Slim's vessel. The ship's logic circuits cut in negating the burst. Slim now knew he was on the right track...
689 posted on 08/04/2002 10:26:00 AM PDT by Junior
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To: Junior
He found himself thinking, "There are no transitional fossils." "Looks don't prove anything." "References are insufficient . . ."

The remaining rational corner of his mind, overwhelmed, thought, "Well, I'm here alright. I have to fight it! But how?"

690 posted on 08/04/2002 10:30:12 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Everything suddenly went blue. Slim found himself wondering why there had never been a Nobel Prize for evolution. Then he wondered why every fossil ever found was a fraud, and why every scientist was part of a gigantic conspiracy to suppress Genesis. Then a dim spark of rationality from deep within his mind cried out to him: "Careful, Slim, you're caught in a powerful field of negative integrity!"
691 posted on 08/04/2002 10:37:35 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
"The field! It's drawing me in . . . I'm fighting it but it's drawing me in. I'm a fightin' but it's a drawin' . . .

"Hmmm! Maybe if I think of it as just a drawing, then perhaps it'll go away!"

692 posted on 08/04/2002 10:40:26 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Desperately, Slim tried to think. He knew from past experience that there would be no help from outside, as nothing could penetrate a negative integrity field. So he would have to fight it alone. But what could possibly defeat the satanic power that held him in its grip?
693 posted on 08/04/2002 10:44:51 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
"I'll just lie about having integrity!" he resolved.
694 posted on 08/04/2002 10:47:34 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry
Then it hit him. "Confront the Demon!"
695 posted on 08/04/2002 10:48:44 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry
Science is laws...evolution is goulaush(puke)!
696 posted on 08/04/2002 10:58:40 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: VadeRetro
He weighed the alternatives. He could yield to the negative integrity field and spend the rest of his life as a liar, a slimer, and an obvious fool, shunned by all rational men. Or he could resolve to fight the menace and retain his humanity. "What'll it be, Slim?" he asked himself. A lifetime of slime and scorn, or somehow win the struggle to maintain his integrity? And all the time, the flue field lured him on. And on.
697 posted on 08/04/2002 10:59:33 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
flue field = blue field.
698 posted on 08/04/2002 11:03:22 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
"I see you, Demon!" he lied. From somewhere in his head came the sound of mocking laughter.
699 posted on 08/04/2002 11:03:54 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: All
Who gets post 700?
700 posted on 08/04/2002 11:03:57 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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