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8-month old baby raped in Henrietta
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Posted on 07/29/2002 10:02:32 AM PDT by chance33_98

HENRIETTA, Okla. – Authorities believe an 8-month old girl was raped orally, vaginally and anally here Friday night.

The girl was taken by air ambulance to St. Francis hospital in Tulsa Saturday after a call to authorities from the little girl’s grandmother. The grandmother was alerted to the girl’s condition Saturday morning by the child’s mother.

Doctors say the child suffered a broken pelvis, fractured palate and broken ankles. Another child living in the home, a 3-year-old girl, was taken into state custody.

Stay tuned to Oklahoma's NewsChannel 4 and KFOR.com for more on this story.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: baby; rape
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To: chance33_98
sick
121 posted on 07/29/2002 12:19:02 PM PDT by JavaTheHutt
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To: Alouette
How about he just be place in the worst prison in the country & instruct the guards to pay no attention to his screams while he is raped to death.
122 posted on 07/29/2002 12:20:43 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: JMJ333
I did see it. Such actions as this have nothing to do with abortion any more than spending several $100,000 to save the life of a welfare baby shows the society at large how much life is valued here.

This evil is of far deeper nature than abortion or even homosexuality.
123 posted on 07/29/2002 12:23:12 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: JMJ333; caddie
JMJ:"You should hang out on the crevo threads."

monday: Whats a crevo thread?

JMJ:"Grow up and recognize the problem our society is facing. " "You're part of the problem. "

monday: Winning friends and influencing people JMJ?

Listen if you want to blame society for the misdeeds of criminals go ahead. I am sure you will have enthusiastic backing from the criminals themselves and the liberals who love them.

The truth is, as bad as things are, they are not getting worse. Child abductions are actually down.

See "Fears aside, abductions decreasing" http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/723888/posts
or "Child Abductions Actually Down" http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/721674/posts

Even one of these cases is too many but no the sky is not falling.
124 posted on 07/29/2002 12:27:39 PM PDT by monday
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To: Cultural Jihad
Gonna beat back that crap if it kills me. ;)
125 posted on 07/29/2002 12:30:13 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: justshutupandtakeit
At the root is the embracement of the culture of death, and the devaluing of life--all life. All the things I mentioned are tied in to this mind-set. Its part of the culture war. On one side you have the moral liberals/science is god/there is no subjective reality crowd. On the other side is people who champion the intrinsic dignity and worth of every life from conception---that there is right and a wrong--and that certain behavior is destructive to our society. Right now, the culture of death is winning. But let it be known that I will go down swinging.
126 posted on 07/29/2002 12:37:26 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: JediGirl
". . .she won't remember it."

Don't count on that. The brain remembers everything in some form or another. I imagine she'll have some "odd" responses in puberty that she won't understand.

No, I'm afraid this poor child now has a significant obstacle to overcome because of this SOB.

127 posted on 07/29/2002 12:40:52 PM PDT by doberville
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To: Steve0113; JediGirl
The only upside of something like this is that she won't remember it.

That occurred to me, too. Also, at that age they heal quickly. She can still have a normal life.

The perp needs to die slowly.

She will remember. Maybe not the detail but between the scars and loss of function she will sustain (colostomy and loss of reproductive parts as well as life long disease) her body will remember she was grossly violated and she will suffer.

I work with adults who were abused and tortured when young. They remember.

Some people just need killing.

128 posted on 07/29/2002 12:48:13 PM PDT by mlmr
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To: JMJ333
I have no argument with that generalization just don't believe it is relevent to this case.
129 posted on 07/29/2002 12:56:18 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: amused
Man, the gentlemen in prison are not going to put out the welcome mat for this miscreant.

In an Oklahoma jail, he'll last maybe two years, tops.

We had a minister (in his 60s, I think) who got sent to one of our state pens for having
gotten a bit too excited while having young females of his congregation on his lap
while (ostensibly) giving them lessons in running the computer.

He always seemed sort of like a well-groomed, yet creepy, guy when he appeared on TV.

IIRC, he was sent onto his reward by a fellow inmate within in his second years of captivity.

I'm in Los Angeles for over five years now, but my Okie roots haven't died out yet.
I about gagged when I heard the Orange County prosecutor was saying that he'd
have to consider whether he'd ask for the death penalty in the "Samantha" case.
But I guess it was a shrewd political move...to say he thought the vicitm's family should
have influence on the decision.
If Samantha's mom says "no death penalty", the prosecutor can stick his finger
in the wind and decide if he wants to say "I agree with Samantha's mother" or
"I wanted to hang the b@stard, but will bow to the wishes of the victim's mother."
130 posted on 07/29/2002 1:03:14 PM PDT by VOA
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To: All
I just do not get this at all. Not that I care what reason this sub-amoebic scum has for this unspeakable crime, but I do wonder what could possess someone to do this. He definitely needs either execution, or life in prison amidst the general population (which means about a 5 minute sentence if they do their job right).
131 posted on 07/29/2002 1:03:31 PM PDT by Inkie
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To: caddie
I don't think you are evil for not noticing it, just brainwashed.

Why thank you. I'm not evil...just stupid

The classic thing about your response is that you seem equally disgusted with someone openly religious, say, a preacher, and with a child rapist.

Yes, that's exactly what I did. I called JMJ a child rapist. I was disgusted with the "I told you so" tone of the post and later stated how I agreed with some of the content. I disagreed with the tone. But hey when someone is on a predetermined roll why let facts get in the way. Gee, notice I said nothing to those who wanted to string this guy up, prayed for the poor child, or statements of satisfaction at this animal eventually(hopefully soon) enjoying the warm confines of hell. Could it be I agree very much with those posters.

That, to me, says it all.

Of course it does. I didn't even have to say anything and you were able to launch into victimhood and onto a high horse all in the same breath. Now below is the obligatory slam delivered from the end of your nose.

Your value system is culled from a bunch of sociology textbooks written by people like Kinsey, the academic child molester.

You swallowed whole the garbage fed you in high school and college, by liberal atheists, and, for your graduate education, you studied TV shows like Saturday Night Live, where you learned it was OK to ridicule people who believe in God.

Wow, it's like you've known me your whole life. Since you gleamed this from one statement of outrage at self righteousness, is there anyway I can send you some handwiriting samples and you can predict my future.

So you are fluent with the Relativists Creed: "Hey, all societies are like this, more or less. There has always been this sort of thing. Society is not getting worse, you just understand it better. Especially since there is 24/7 news on the cable."

Hmmmmm, I make the statement that crimes of this nature most likely were not described in detail, almost as a gloss over, in the days of self censorship(and that is not stated in it's liberal definition) of newspapers and now I am a moral relativist?? Would you say such evil men have always existed or just in the last 10 years since the Toon took power? Or maybe since the sexual revolution? or that a baby rape never happened before the moral decay in our society?

See I agree with the notion of society experiencing moral decay. I believe abortion is henious. But I am not ready to make the full leap that such a society creates such evil. Possibly nutures it but otherwise you are entering a liberal argument of it being society's fault, instead of calling evil when you see it like you say I am uncapable of. Add to that a self righteous tone and your message gets lost. I had a problem with the tone and now I have a problem with you it seems.

You have mastered the lesson.

Yes I have. Always tweak the self righteous when they get on their soapbox and point their finger down at you. Eventually they will resort to insults and assumptions proving your point in the first place.

132 posted on 07/29/2002 1:06:48 PM PDT by amused
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To: justshutupandtakeit
It is relevent because the pop culture/hollywood/libertarian-moral liberal crowd pushes a concept which champions sexual deviancy. Porn, homosexuality--even NAMBLA and other groups who push the edge with "its okay to sexualize children" mantra. This coupled with the devaluization of life from the atheist/science community, which has relegated life to worthless with their chimeras, clones, harvesting, freezing and aborting of innocent human life. Throw in the "keep your religion to yourself" crowd and you have imprinted on society that it is okay to do whatever you want.

Not saying that if we lived in a moral society that this evil creep would't have acted out his crime--just that there would be a lot less chance of it happening. And that the message from pop culture/society in today's world is anything but a deterrent.

133 posted on 07/29/2002 1:07:41 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: myrabach
It's called repressed memory. Usually rears it's ugly head in the teenage years. Poor child, the "evil" basturd must be destroyed!
134 posted on 07/29/2002 1:14:40 PM PDT by seeker41
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To: chance33_98
Where'd I put my catfish strippers?
135 posted on 07/29/2002 1:15:28 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: caddie
"Do you really think this sort of crime would occur, much less with any sort of regularity (as is the case now), if we had some basic morality in this country,"

yes... You see gross perversion and child rape has been going on in one very large church for a long time... one that CLAIMS a LOT of morality.... or have you been missing the news reports for the last few years?

the leader of that very large Church STILL cannot bring himself to fully condemn and punish the perps and turn over all the evidence they have in the organization to go and get 'em...

Judgment has to begin at God's house, not the government's... When the religous leaders decide to clean house and castrate or kill the perpetrators of crimes of this nature, within their ranks, then the followwers of said "relgions" can thump their chests over righteousness all they want... until then, the "morality" diatribe is lost on MOST americans.

This person is evil, pure and simple and it has NOTHING to do with birth control pills, condoms or abortion. And if the Church cared anything about the value of human life, it would thoroughly PURGE the ranks of perverts whom they have coddled, protected and transfered with regularity to new "killing fields" where they create new members of the "jeffrey dahmer" society by their atrocities, committed in the name of God Almighty.

No doubt this person is evil... but blaming on the rest of us for what a partcular groups finds "immoral" or "offensive to God" while they offend us daily with immoral hypocracy and covering for child rapists... is MORE than a bit of a stretch.

HOW many dahmers have these corrupt and perverse child abusers created, under the aegis of "religion?" It's not the nation's morality that is bringing us down... it is the church's IMMORALITY and complacence world wide that is.

136 posted on 07/29/2002 1:21:15 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: JMJ333
"Not saying that if we lived in a moral society that this evil creep would't have acted out his crime--just that there would be a lot less chance of it happening. And that the message from pop culture/society in today's world is anything but a deterrent."

Great post....

The "Everything-Is-Relative" social/moral-anarchists have hijacked the America of Mom's apple pie, John Wayne, and George Washington, and managed to replace it with Michael Jackson, Bill Clnton, and NAMBLA.

Unfortunately, things will get worse before it gets better.

137 posted on 07/29/2002 1:22:39 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: amused
I still think there is a good chance that the 3-year-old may be involved. I said MAY. That the conclusion of sexual abuse (in the classic sense) may be an assumption, not a cold hard fact.

Then again, mom's crank-looped shackup, or a babysitter, or mom herself, who knows.

138 posted on 07/29/2002 1:26:05 PM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: JMJ333
It is relevent because the pop culture/hollywood/libertarian-moral liberal crowd pushes a concept which champions sexual deviancy

you mean... like the church?

dollars to doughnuts the rapist here, will turn out to be the victim of one of the "moral authorities" in some local church...

Connecting this with aborition is ridiculous... but connecting it with a previous history of being victimized by some pedophile priest... is probably closer to the truth...

Clean up God's house and leadership... and the world will stand up in awe... pontificate to them about THEIR immorality and they will skewer you as a hypocrite while you purchase plane tickets for pedophile priest relocation programs....

preach it to yourself first.. if it works for you, folks will beat a path to your door... otherwise, you are just blowing smoke from your own fire...

140 posted on 07/29/2002 1:28:52 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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