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Wanted: A civil war
The Jerusalem Post ^ | Jul. 27, 2002 | STEWART WEISS

Posted on 07/27/2002 11:42:23 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows

The Jerusalem Post Internet Edition

Wanted: A civil war



Ask the average Israeli or Palestinian, for that matter what is the single most depressing, most frightening aspect of the horrible state of affairs in which we are currently enmeshed, and he will tell you: It is not the violence, not the incitement, not even the fear of opening the daily newspaper that scares him the most.

It is the absolute hopelessness of the whole mess, the utter lack of a reasonable solution to the conflict, that is so traumatizing.

Other than a handful of pie-in-the-sky dreamers such as Shimon Peres, who cannot bring himself to admit that his "New Middle East" is nothing more than the same old quagmire no one has been able to come up with any plan that can even remotely pass for a light at the end of the proverbial tunnel.

But a solution does exist, one that could lead to a new beginning, a permanent peace, a better future. It is called civil war.

In order for the Palestinians to change direction from eternal conflict to compromise and coexistence, those who demand that Israel must be eliminated need to be purged.

That means: stripped of their weapons; denied free movement and free expression of hate. Arrested. Jailed. Stopped in their tracks by any means possible, including the use of deadly force.

For that to happen, there must be a civil war.
The terror-loving, terror-perpetrating extremist element must be confronted and conquered by those Palestinians who want a state based on law and order, one that openly accepts a Jewish nation at its side.

This was the original thinking of Yitzhak Rabin, who made no secret of his hope that an armed Palestinian Authority would move quickly to suppress any and all opposition to its rule, regardless of the methods employed.

Rabin envisioned a quick, brutal strike against groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad, one akin to Hafez Assad's massacre of political foes in Hama and Iraqi's bloody suppression of Kurdish insurgents.

But Arafat and his cronies refused to take action against the extremists.

And on the rare exceptions when they did such as when they surrounded Sheikh Yassin's home, placing him under house arrest they quickly backed off when "the street" demanded that the rejectionists be held above the law.

And so the monster of terror grew fatter, stronger and bolder with each passing day, until they controlled public opinion and dictated the agenda.

Now nothing less than all-out civil war will excise the cancer infecting the Palestinian body politic.

CIVIL WARS are generally horrific exercises in bloodletting, with rival factions vying for power, leaving their countries ravaged for generations to come (witness Algeria, Lebanon, et al).

But there are also civil wars fought for more noble purposes, to purge a deviant enemy within and determine a nation's future course.

The most famous example, of course, is the American Civil War. It was, by all accounts, a horrendous cyclone of suffering and sadness that pitted brother against brother, resulting in more than 600,000 dead and over a million wounded. It may have been Blue vs. Grey, but the operative color was Red.

And yet, the War Between the States ultimately united the nation, established a firm direction for America and led to a steady increase in its power and prestige. The United States became, in short order, the leader of its hemisphere, and then the leader of the entire world.

Abraham Lincoln framed his conviction to engage in civil war in 1858, when he declared: "A house divided against itself cannot stand. I do not expect the house to fall, but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other."

When the war finally came to an end at Appomatox in 1865, Honest Abe who would soon be assassinated by a vengeful Southern actor reflected on the war and his firm belief that it had to be fought:

"All dreaded civil war; all sought to avert it," he said. "Both parties deprecated war but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive; and the other would accept war rather than let it perish."

Arafat and the PA have on numerous occasions rationalized their continuing refusal to curb terrorism on the grounds that "it would create a civil war in Palestine."

Unfortunately, that is the precise cure for the havoc that surrounds us.

The writer is director of the Jewish Outreach Center of Ra'anana.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel
KEYWORDS: arafat; gaza; israel; judea; palestinians; samaria; westbank
Thought-provoking. And scary.

FReegards,
Slings and Arrows

1 posted on 07/27/2002 11:42:23 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows
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To: Slings and Arrows
The problem is that they are all terrorists or terrorist sympathizers.

They themselves have said "there are no civilians," in an attempt to justify murder of innocents.

Very well. No civilians. Therefore you get 1000-pound bombs on buildings in which a terrorist leader has surrounded himself with human shields.

The palestinians have defined the terms of the conflict.

The only workable solution: transfer of all "palestinians" to Jordan, and a tightly-sealed border to prevent their return.

--Boris

2 posted on 07/27/2002 11:47:53 PM PDT by boris
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To: boris
Oh heck, stuff a few of them in Egypt and Lebanon too. They deserve em.
3 posted on 07/28/2002 12:03:31 AM PDT by mercy
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To: boris
Abdullah won't take them. Maybe he could bus them to Saudi.
4 posted on 07/28/2002 12:21:12 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Slings and Arrows
The terror-loving, terror-perpetrating extremist element must be confronted and conquered by those Palestinians who want a state based on law and order . . .

Wishful thinking, imo. The 5% who want peace do not have the abilitiy to conquer the 95% who don't.

5 posted on 07/28/2002 12:30:31 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Slings and Arrows
that is the precise cure for the havoc that surrounds us.
The writer is director of the Jewish Outreach Center of Ra'anana

LOL, objective source.

7 posted on 07/28/2002 12:50:51 AM PDT by Pistias
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To: Slings and Arrows
This is one more idea, which if attempted will fail.

It fails to address the real problem, radical Islam.

Which preaches hate and submission to all non-islam and really wishes to conquor the world.

Israel is surrounded by an endless supply of this hate in the mid-east and unless this is killed, and I mean KILLED, there will be no solution.

You cannot live in a house where your neighbors have sworn to kill you, and who all hear the same exhortations from 'GOD', down the street at the local mosque and on the TV and in their newspapers, and on the radio, to kill the 'infadels'. Hear this, read this, 25 hours a day, 7 days a week.

It will help to blow up all the houses immediately adjacent to yours to give you a bit of a perimiter defense, and then build a gigantic, defensable wall around your home. But one cant live forever like that.

However, it is better than having them kill you in your bed while you sleep.
8 posted on 07/28/2002 2:51:11 AM PDT by XBob
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sorry - "Which preaches hate and submission TO all non-islam and really wishes to conquor the world. "

should read

"Which preaches hate and submission OF all non-islam and really wishes to conquor the world. "
9 posted on 07/28/2002 2:53:45 AM PDT by XBob
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To: boris
The only workable solution: transfer of all "palestinians" to Jordan, and a tightly-sealed border to prevent their return.

None of Israel's Arab neighbors want the Palies, most especially the Jordanians. Not that I disagree with the essence of your statement. But the only way they will be forced to take them is at gunpoint.

10 posted on 07/28/2002 3:50:41 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Slings and Arrows
But there are also civil wars fought for more noble purposes, to purge a deviant enemy within and determine a nation's future course.
The most famous example, of course, is the American Civil War.

So Southerners were "deviants". Whatta tool!
11 posted on 07/28/2002 4:59:53 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Slings and Arrows
"All dreaded civil war; all sought to avert it," he said. "Both parties deprecated war but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive; and the other would accept war rather than let it perish."

Unfortunately, the Jerusalem Post is reading revisionist history.

Lincoln used the excuse of ending slavery as a propaganda technique. If that be true, the USA is the only nation on earth to settle the slavery issue with war. Everyone else settle it at a negotiating table.

And if Lincoln had packaged his method of ending slavery into a 'global vision', the body count would have been staggering.

Lincoln's real agenda was to establish a federalism which would deny the states their Constitutional rights. What we have in Washington, DC today is a direct result of Lincoln and his communist friends.

12 posted on 07/28/2002 5:13:21 AM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: Slings and Arrows
Rabin envisioned a quick, brutal strike against groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad, one akin to Hafez Assad's massacre of political foes in Hama

Yes but unlike Israel Assad kept his enemies down once he had them on the ground. Israel keeps slapping the terrorists down then pulling back and letting them rebuild.

13 posted on 07/28/2002 5:36:51 AM PDT by Valin
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To: Slings and Arrows
Wanted: A civil war - Damm I though you meant between Republicans and demonRats - now that's what I'd like to see - "you may be able to vote 10 times Rat but you can only file one gun at a time!"
14 posted on 07/28/2002 7:35:52 AM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001
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To: Free_at_last_-2001
file = fire
15 posted on 07/28/2002 7:36:36 AM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001
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To: Slings and Arrows
The historical precedent he is using here is Ireland.

In 1922 the British offered Eire a 'Free State'. Legally it was a dominion within the British Empire but with no real British authority. That way the British didn't have to say 'Republic'. Michael Collins and the majority of the Sinn Fein signed, accepting de facto independence.

The other faction led by Eamon de Valera wanted to fight on until Britain granted de jure independence. There was a civil war within the IRA between the Free Staters and the Republicans. The Free Staters won.

The complicating factor here is that the Irish Republicans were internationally isolated. Palestinian rejectionists will always be able to go to Damascus or Baghdad or Teheran for money and guns. A sovereign Palestinian authority must exercise the right of the state to maintain a monopoly of armed force. No radical militias hooked directly into the intelligence apparatuses of other Arab governments.
16 posted on 07/28/2002 7:53:10 AM PDT by Tokhtamish
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