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AL QAIDA IN THE RANKS? Noncitizen (Naval) reservist suspected of ties to terrorist network
Navy Times
| July 29, 2002
| Christopher Munsey & Patricia Kime
Posted on 07/26/2002 11:00:47 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: cva66snipe; rdavis84
Particularly odd that the chief preacher at a mosque should want to be an E-1 reservist at that age.
To: cva66snipe; rdavis84
On second thought, since he was an E-4 less than a year after joining up, he probably affiliated at that rank. But still...
To: Sabertooth
If that can be proven, Osman would likely be the first U.S. service member publicly linked to a terrorism group since Sept. 11. Uh-oh.
To: christine11
Thanks for the ping. This does not surprise me, but it's a revealing story, in many ways.
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posted on
07/26/2002 6:55:13 PM PDT
by
agrandis
To: christine11
Thanks for the ping
Why would anyone be surprised that there are Al-Quaida so called moles in the ranks?
You know that since the last Administration, we had(and still have) many in this gov't that gladly accepted political donations from Red China. The same China that still holds most favored nation status(trading)...along the while committing crime after crime against it's own citizens.
Oh, btw is there any reason to keep Saudi Arabia as a fav? (besides oil and political donations)?
To: pitinkie
It's common and a good way for many to gain citizenship... MOST who do are loyal and quite motivated. Some few, like this one, would make it hard for the good ones...
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posted on
07/26/2002 7:25:04 PM PDT
by
dcwusmc
To: Sabertooth
We should make them wait and once they have fully served and shot the enemy down from positions placed by our actual military citizens. Then perhaps we should consider it, but only on a case by case basis and judged by their military and civilian peers. It should be something special not a wholesale bulk item.
67
posted on
07/26/2002 7:30:52 PM PDT
by
CJ Wolf
To: aristeides
Absolute need to require a complete background check on every military inductee before their placement in critical positions of trust. The entrance national agency check is a joke.
The military is able to "profile" for certain categories that require background updates and remove access to information and position. They do so for excess debt, drug use, AFFILIATION with particular groups.
If I remember the group listing accurately, certain religious groups were on the restricted listing. Adherence to any wahhabi Islamic sect should require loss of access.
68
posted on
07/26/2002 7:47:27 PM PDT
by
xzins
To: mhking
I still can't get over allowing non US citizens to serve in the armed forces, even in the reserves or some auxiliary.
69
posted on
07/26/2002 7:55:36 PM PDT
by
mafree
To: mafree; xzins
It's a good way for noncitizens to get citizenship, but I think xzins is right that they should first pass the kind of security check that he suggests.
To: bvw; *Anthrax_Scare_List
Well, if the Pakis are out of West Trenton, maybe that means no more anthrax.
To: pitinkie; christine11
To: Sabertooth; Victoria Delsoul
Thank you Saber for the ping to this.
To: Honorary Serb
When a "moderate muslim" is smiling at you, he is thinking about Danny Pearl.
To: cva66snipe; blam
A suicide sleeper Islamikazi on a Navy ship could easily blow it up by sneaking a small explosive device into a magazine etc.
The biggest explosion in French history was done by an Islamikazi a few weeks after he got a job in a fertilizer plant.
To: bvw
I think a lot of islamikazis have been disappearing lately, either to go home, or hide underground.
To: aristeides
I worry about those problems here. I worry about the fact that some of our assets aren't so secretive anymore. ( I won't mention which ones out of respect for our AWESOME COUNTRY) However, it's scary!
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posted on
07/26/2002 10:14:33 PM PDT
by
MoJo2001
To: aristeides
Trouble indeed. We shouldn't allow Muslims in our armed forces.
To: rdavis84
"I still can't figure out how a non citizen can be in our military!!! Why???" It's becoming more prevalent. When I joined the Army 20 years ago I don't recall any non-native born soldiers in Basic, AIT, or my first duty station. Now I see it all the time. We have soldiers from Pakistan, Nigeria, Surinam, you name it. Most enlist as green card holders. I don't like it and I was just as shocked as you when I found out we do this. It reminds me of the waning days of the Roman Empire when the Roman Army relied on Gauls, Goths and Vandals to fill-out the ranks.
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posted on
07/26/2002 10:59:12 PM PDT
by
arm958
To: xzins
Absolute need to require a complete background check on every military inductee before their placement in critical positions of trust. The entrance national agency check is a joke. Good point, but how do you do a complete background check on someone who has only been in the U.S. for two years and spent the first 20 in Lahore, Pakistan (like one guy I recently served with)? Answer: You can't.
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posted on
07/26/2002 11:08:08 PM PDT
by
arm958
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