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Department of Homeland Security- Who Needs It? (Ron Paul)
Ron Paul's website ^ | July 23, 2002 | Ron Paul

Posted on 07/24/2002 8:50:13 AM PDT by toenail

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1 posted on 07/24/2002 8:50:13 AM PDT by toenail
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To: toenail
--Ron Paul--a single intelligent voice in a 435 dolt group of bi-partisan mediocrity--
2 posted on 07/24/2002 8:54:43 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: toenail
right on Ron Paul and take GOD for the people who elected him.

Here in COLORADO we have Mrs. Musgraves, I thibk she will be a big suppost to Mr. Paul. If she gets elected.
3 posted on 07/24/2002 8:56:17 AM PDT by RMrattlesnake
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To: *Ron Paul List; madfly
Index Bump
4 posted on 07/24/2002 8:56:53 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: rellimpank
"and stop taking sides in the long, ongoing war in the Middle East"

I don't think this is an intelligent statement....
5 posted on 07/24/2002 8:57:34 AM PDT by jbstrick
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To: toenail
Have we done anything to slow up immigration of individuals with Saudi passports? No,

Yes. Thanks to an intrepid reporter from National Review Online

A program is being planned to use millions of Americans to spy on their neighbors, an idea appropriate for a totalitarian society.

Yeah, and Hitler built the Autobahn, should we tear up all US highways, too?

Regardless of any assurances, we all know that the national ID card will soon be instituted.

Really? We know this? How prescient of us!

Who believes for a moment that the military will not be used to enforce civil law in the near future?

Gee, Ron, you should write science fiction.

Posse comitatus will be repealed by executive order or by law,

It will? What will the lottery numbers be tomorrow, Ron?

Instead, war fever will build until the warmongers get their wish and we march on Baghdad, making us even a greater target of those who despise us for our bellicose control of the world.

And now we go from simple arrogance to downright stupidity. What are we supposed to do? Sit and cower behind our chairs with our eyes shut and our bodies curled into a fetal position and hope -- against hope -- that the big bad meanies will just leave us alone?

A new department is hardly what we need.

You know, I would think a libertarian would be for the streamlining of government instead of a host of alphabet-soup agencies with overlapping jurisdictions and inefficient bureaucracies. Ron Paul against government streamlining. Who woulda thought?

A common sense improvement to homeland security would allow the DOD to provide protection,

Uh, the DoD is the military. You know, the ones who are going to lead us into an apocolyptic nightmare when they start enforcing civil law.

Ron Paul, we hardly knew ye. Fortunately, you're doing a very fine parody of yourself.

6 posted on 07/24/2002 9:01:15 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: RMrattlesnake
You are lucky to have a chance to vote for principles. I'm stuck with marxists or neocon/RINO's.
7 posted on 07/24/2002 9:05:13 AM PDT by steve50
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To: AmishDude
I disagree with him on Israel but I don't like this homeland security crap either. It won't stop terrorist.
8 posted on 07/24/2002 9:12:57 AM PDT by weikel
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My opinion invade Saudi Arabia and treat them like Ghenghis Khan would have. Then no one will ever commit terrorist attacks against the US ever again.
9 posted on 07/24/2002 9:14:36 AM PDT by weikel
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To: AmishDude
Joe Biden and Tom Ridge have both said they favor modifying or lifting posse comitatus restrictions.

And if you really think an entity that controls both the guns and the money can be reformed or made more efficient, I have some waterfront property in Florida to sell you.

As I suggested to someone else today, you should hold your breath for all the federal government layoffs once the agencies are consolidated into the DHS. Really. It's gonna happen.

10 posted on 07/24/2002 9:18:52 AM PDT by SteamshipTime
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To: SteamshipTime
Ron Paul BUMP!
11 posted on 07/24/2002 9:24:12 AM PDT by eshu
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To: SteamshipTime
Joe Biden and Tom Ridge have both said they favor modifying or lifting posse comitatus restrictions.

That's a lie, in Tom Ridge's case. Keep that knee from jerking and check out what Ridge actually said. You still might not like it, but it's not what you attributed to him.

Besides, I oppose changing the PCA except where WMDs are involved but lest we not forget that the republic survived 89 years before the PCA and it was only enacted in order to end Reconstruction.

Regardless, I'm not going to play Turkey Lurkey to Ron Paul's Chicken Little.

12 posted on 07/24/2002 9:28:19 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: SteamshipTime
And if you really think an entity that controls both the guns and the money can be reformed or made more efficient,

Time to give up, then! Why bother? Throw in the towel! Bring plenty of canned food to the Fallout Shelter, ma!

I have some waterfront property in Florida to sell you.

Uh, I don't think you want to say "Florida".

13 posted on 07/24/2002 9:30:15 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: toenail
I have my disagreements with Ron Paul, but if he ran for President he would have my vote.
14 posted on 07/24/2002 9:32:54 AM PDT by habaes corpussel
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To: toenail
Once again the lone voice of sanity in Congress speaks out....but nobody hears.

15 posted on 07/24/2002 9:33:50 AM PDT by Nate505
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To: Spirit of Thomas Jefferson
As one great American and friend once said 'give me liberty or give me death'

OK, screen names are fun and all, but sometimes we're forced to call in the guys with the white coats.

17 posted on 07/24/2002 9:40:49 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Spirit of Thomas Jefferson
LOL good to see you have a sense of humor

Trust me, it's a lonely role on the libertarian threads.

19 posted on 07/24/2002 9:48:56 AM PDT by AmishDude
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20 posted on 07/24/2002 10:10:57 AM PDT by madfly
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