Then, in September 2001 (only five days, in fact, before the destruction of the World Trade Center), the Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet reported that 65 percent of rapes of Norwegian women were performed by "non-Western" immigrants–a category that, in Norway, consists mostly of Muslims. The article quoted a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo (who was described as having "lived for many years in Muslim countries") as saying that "Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes" because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. One reason for the high number of rapes by Muslims, explained the professor, was that in their native countries "rape is scarcely punished," since Muslims "believe that it is women who are responsible for rape." The professor’s conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite: "Norwegian women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it."
This sums it up:
As for those who, after a period in the West, make it obvious that they are unwilling or unable to adapt, they must be sent home and replaced by deserving individuals who can adapt. This may appear extreme, but there is no reasonable alternative. For at stake in all this, ultimately, are the basic freedoms of all Westerners–not only women and homosexuals, but everyone, including Muslims and former Muslims who wish to live in a place where they can be themselves. At stake, indeed, is Western civilization.
"If fundamentalist Muslims in Europe do not carry out these punishments, it is not because they've advanced beyond such thinking, but because they don't have the power"......Yet!
The First Amendment is a live-and-let-live doctrine.The founders of this Republic had differences to overcome, and they instituted the transcending of those differences. America is consequently, by design, a place to get past differences which would have much more tendency to lead to bloodshed elsewhere than they (in fact) do here.
That is not to say that that transcending tendency is unbounded. We also, historically, have had segregation and internment camps for Japanese during WWII, and the removal of Indian tribes. It is not a given that al Qaeda will fail in its attempt to cause us to treat Muslims similarly. That indeed is their objective.
Long read but facinating.
It seems the Euros have a choice, to allow themselves and their culture to be over run by these Islamic Fundamentalists or to draw a line in the sand and say "Enough is enough".
Sadly, I think they will choose the first course until the Natives are under direct seige.
Then it will REALLY hit the fan...
Cheers,
knews hound
So many nuggets of truth, including "If fundamentalist Muslims in Europe do not carry out these punishments, it is not because they’ve advanced beyond such thinking, but because they don’t have the power." ----If one browses through Islamic society web sites in the US, one will note the urgent, ubiquitous calls to enter into politics and gain political power.
Precisely! And it is an ideology cloaked in religion, not unlike Communism was cloaked in fundamentalist atheism. And also like Communism, it is one soaked in blood.
A great many of these people are dangerous, and extremely so and it is hard to tell the players without actually getting inside their heads. Their world-view has nothing to do with ours or our heritage. Their stated fanatical desire is to gain control over us so they can enforce their views and laws on us.
It has been said many times before on this forum and I'll say it again: we need to round up and deport all non-citizen Muslims immediately for our own safety. Those left who have managed to become citizens (or have converted) then need close watching until proven safe. Still, we may never know for sure. But at least we'll have eradicated a weighty part of the threat!
We are flirting with a national bloodbath here (much worse than the first one at the Pentagon and WTC) if we don't take common sense action now for our national protection. If it hurts a few feelings, well, so what? That will hurt a lot less than the death and destruction that wait just around the corner! We are eventually going to have to do it anyway. We may as well do it now and prevent untold suffering, death and grief.
The importance of these in "Liberal" thinking cannot be overemphasized. And it is "Liberalism"--"Liberal" thinking--that poses the greatest threat to liberty, democracy, and Western Civilization in the world today because it is the enabler of their enemies, notably, though not exclusively, Islamic fundamentalism. It was the direct precursor of the September 11 Massacre.
For example: The Dutch, in their enthusiasm to reject Calvinist fundamentalism, refuse to recognize the fundamentalism inherent in Islam and mistake the replacement of the familiar by the exotic for an eradication of fundamentalism.
"We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality."Unless Europeans and Americans come to their senses soon, face reality, and begin to think clearly, they are in for a VERY rough awakening--and much sooner than they think.--Ayn Rand"There is no substitute for moral and strategic clarity."--Benjamin Netanyahu
Americans and Europeans would be wise to recognize the need to reject "Liberal" fundamentalism and Islamic fundamentalism as ruthlessly as they reject Calvinistic fundamentalism, to face the fact that "Liberalism" and Islam pose mortal threats to everything that they hold dear, and that denial and confused thinking will lead to the destruction of everything that they revere.
Unless Americans and Europeans come to their senses soon and deal effectively with the problem of Islam, they are going to face the choice between a Third World War and the destruction of Western Civilization. They will choose war, but they will likely end up with both.
Essentially, it is more neo-con hogwash, which is only slightly preferable to liberal hogwash. The gist is, Islamism is BAD (and conceding this places it ahead of general Leftist immigration ideology), but Third World immigration is GOOD as long the immigrants can be assimiliated.
It's hogwash because, first, the assimiliation favored by the neo-cons in unlikely to occur in the Politically Correct enviroment in America and Western Europe in this day and age, and to assume that such an enviroment can be changed is a stretch and a hellish risk if it not and assimiliated thusly fails, and, because, second, there is nothing wrong, ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong, with the preservation of Holland as an ethnically Dutch homeland, Norway as an ethnically Norweigan homeland, etc, etc. Certainly involutary deportation of legal aliens and citizens is wrong and should not be done; but who the hell has decreed that the immigration must continue and why is it assumed that it is a positive even if this pipe dream of mass Muslim/3rd World assimilation does in fact occur?
If Western Europe does not stop the immigration, or at least substantially reduce, their descendants will no longer live in Western European nations. And I, unlike leftists who would consider that a wonderful delight, and neo-cons who consider it irrelevant, consider that a tragedy.
All along, some Western Europeans have been aware that "Islam is not a race or an ethnicity; it is an ideology" and that Muslims intentionally blur the distinction. If "ordinary Western Europeans are beginning to recognize" this, they are, so far, much too slow and ineffective to take meaningful action. Meanwhile the situation grow rapidly worse and approaches a point of no return.
Perhaps "people can be drawn away from"..."Islamic fundamentalism", but, so far, the number of those who have been is negligible, and Western Europeans have been completely ineffective in bringing this about. There is no promise in this anemic hope.
His plan to admit Muslim immigrants on a trial basis and then expel those who don't "fit in"..."outwardly and inwardly" is ridiculous. He is in fact describing the present situation, and Western Europeans, right now, lack the will to expel Muslims who do not "fit in".
His plan to reeducate Muslims and convert them to Western thinking and away from Islamic thinking is absurd. Muslim immigrants are well aware of Western thinking. They reject it. The number who will be willing to reject Islamic thinking and adopt Western ways is negligible. He has already essentially said so in his article.
His plan to send back Muslims who can't adjust and recruit those who can is laughable.
However his final conclusion: "At stake, indeed, is Western Civilization" is correct.
All this notwithstanding, Bawer's description and appraisal of the situation are very good.
Muslims are not impeded by the confusion and denial that prevent Western Europeans and Americans from taking meaningful action and solving this problem. Theirs is a singularity of purpose, and this is their greatest weapon.
Muslims also know that time and numbers are on their side as they continue to immigrate to the West.
What Western Europeans and Americans cannot--but must--bring themselves to recognize is that the only solution is to halt Muslim immigration and expel Muslims who have immigrated illegally.
A more draconian solution, but one that may be necessary if Western Civilization is to survive, would be to outlaw Islam as a subversive movement, regardless of whether or not it is also a religion, as Naziism and communism have been outlawed in some countries.
The people of the West are understandably reluctant to take such measures, which, to Western thinking, are extreme, but the situation is extreme, and Westerners are going to have to consider such measures sooner or later, and the sooner the better--for everyone!
It is a matter of facing reality and thinking clearly!
"We can evade reality but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.""There is no substitute for moral and strategic clarity."
Lefties are ready to enter even a union with the devil, i.e. Allah, to destroy our world. Well, their ideology is very similar to the ideology of Islam: both are collectivist (mob) ideologies appealing to those incapable of individual effort or unwilling to bear individual responsibility. Communism under the green banner of Islam after the total fail of the red banner...
There is no society with more widely practised homosexualism then the Muslim society. No wonder, with all these strict prohibitions of male/female socialising and the cult of male "friendship".
And of course it ones again shows the utter falsehood of liberal assertions that homosexuality isn't a matter of choice, however morbid, but something congenital for certain individuals.
Welcome to the real world, Mr. gay intellectual.
The above sentence brought an otherwise insightful and thought-provoking essay to an abrupt end for me.
Muslims are not the only ones susceptible to profound,total and fatal blind spots.
Gayness may never figure out that being in the closet may not be the hell they insist it was, considering the real-life alternatives.
But gayness is a temporary irritation, and not yet violent.
Islam is violent, uncompromising, here and permanent. If we let it.
Why do so many come for Freedom and then proceed to plow it under?