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To: white trash redneck
Bawer's final conclusions and recommendations are silly.

All along, some Western Europeans have been aware that "Islam is not a race or an ethnicity; it is an ideology" and that Muslims intentionally blur the distinction. If "ordinary Western Europeans are beginning to recognize" this, they are, so far, much too slow and ineffective to take meaningful action. Meanwhile the situation grow rapidly worse and approaches a point of no return.

Perhaps "people can be drawn away from"..."Islamic fundamentalism", but, so far, the number of those who have been is negligible, and Western Europeans have been completely ineffective in bringing this about. There is no promise in this anemic hope.

His plan to admit Muslim immigrants on a trial basis and then expel those who don't "fit in"..."outwardly and inwardly" is ridiculous. He is in fact describing the present situation, and Western Europeans, right now, lack the will to expel Muslims who do not "fit in".

His plan to reeducate Muslims and convert them to Western thinking and away from Islamic thinking is absurd. Muslim immigrants are well aware of Western thinking. They reject it. The number who will be willing to reject Islamic thinking and adopt Western ways is negligible. He has already essentially said so in his article.

His plan to send back Muslims who can't adjust and recruit those who can is laughable.

However his final conclusion: "At stake, indeed, is Western Civilization" is correct.

All this notwithstanding, Bawer's description and appraisal of the situation are very good.

Muslims are not impeded by the confusion and denial that prevent Western Europeans and Americans from taking meaningful action and solving this problem. Theirs is a singularity of purpose, and this is their greatest weapon.

Muslims also know that time and numbers are on their side as they continue to immigrate to the West.

What Western Europeans and Americans cannot--but must--bring themselves to recognize is that the only solution is to halt Muslim immigration and expel Muslims who have immigrated illegally.

A more draconian solution, but one that may be necessary if Western Civilization is to survive, would be to outlaw Islam as a subversive movement, regardless of whether or not it is also a religion, as Naziism and communism have been outlawed in some countries.

The people of the West are understandably reluctant to take such measures, which, to Western thinking, are extreme, but the situation is extreme, and Westerners are going to have to consider such measures sooner or later, and the sooner the better--for everyone!

It is a matter of facing reality and thinking clearly!

"We can evade reality but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality."

"There is no substitute for moral and strategic clarity."


29 posted on 07/24/2002 11:50:49 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: Savage Beast
WOW...SB...Great analysis...I was hoping for more agreement with his suggestions...And Wish you were wrong with all my heart about this "cult" being so imbedded in its followers that a thorough intro to Democratic values and civil rights can't reprogram it...but I'm afraid you're right at this time and place... Its too easy to parrot western values for a few months and pass any sort of "trial" status as an immigrant with bad intent.

I just hope some realistic liberals will convert to Conservatism BEFORE they have to be "mugged"- which in this context probably means bombed or poisoned, in order to see the "Death Cult" as a political movement, not religious practice. Too much Israeli and American Blood has already been spilled to treat this threat as anything but WAR!..Long Live Free Republic!!!

86 posted on 07/25/2002 12:39:38 PM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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