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2nd Bug Expert Bolsters Westerfield Defense: (Dusek Melting Down Before Juries Eyes!!)
NBC/San Diego ^ | July 22, 2002 | NBC/San Diego

Posted on 07/22/2002 3:02:31 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: VRWC_minion
Not only is your reasoning not valid, the math you use to express it is also flawed.

I have 5 gears in my car, odds are 20% if I put it in gear, that gear will be first. Then for second, 20%. Third, fourth fifth, 20%. For me to ever get from first to fifth, I have -- .2*.2*.2*.2*.2= 0.032% -- an order of magnitude less likely that your evidence scenario.

And yet, I do it several times a day, despite the odds being stacked against me.

The point being not that my analysis was valid, just that you are talking nonsense with some numbers.

301 posted on 07/22/2002 6:00:49 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: VRWC_minion
Assuming that someone else did dispose of body would that make DW innocent or an accessory ?

I think if you believe someone else dumped the body, then you really have to acquit Westerfield. There would simply be too many unanswered questions to convict him.

Despite the intense scrutiny DW was under (surveillance, phone records, GPS tracker on his vehicle, etc.), the prosecution did not turn up any evidence of a possible accomplice. Of course, that doesn't absolutely prove he didn't conspire with someone else to commit the crime. But I think to convict you would need evidence of a conspiracy.

The burden of proof falls on the prosecution. The benefit of the doubt must go to the defendant.

302 posted on 07/22/2002 6:00:57 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Travis McGee
Very interesting.
303 posted on 07/22/2002 6:00:57 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: UCANSEE2
How about asking questions of those that have been following this case from the beginning, or asking them to source info or point you to a source, and after getting the information, coming to an informed conclusion

That is precisely what I was doing and was reacting to someone who presented with a claim that such testimony was in evidence. Those with knowledge of the testimony wouldn't be misleading would they ? Someone actually testified that the dogs proved without a shadow of doubt that Danielle could not have been in the RV in the few weeks before ?

304 posted on 07/22/2002 6:01:18 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Travis McGee
The prosecution has used the 1st bug man about 200 times...was he more credible then?
305 posted on 07/22/2002 6:01:41 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: Travis McGee
We need a new legal system wherein the jury never gets to actually vote. The PRESS watches their faces for us and tell us what the jury is thinking instead. Yah, that'll work.
306 posted on 07/22/2002 6:02:00 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Simcha7
If it was Not Westerfield himself...then who did it? The very sad truth is...we may Never know.

I think you have hit on one of the most repeated statements and thoughts by a majority of posters on these threads.

307 posted on 07/22/2002 6:03:12 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: John Jamieson
I'll bet there are some fibers in your home that match some in mine. Everybody buys stuff at Walmart.

Another interesting coincidence. They do add up don't they ?

308 posted on 07/22/2002 6:03:31 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Rheo
These guys go where the $ is. Ask O.J. defender Henry Lee.
309 posted on 07/22/2002 6:04:03 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: Rheo
If Dusek leans too hard those 200 are going to want a new trial. Dusek is sunk either way. He's toast.
310 posted on 07/22/2002 6:05:44 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Rheo; VRWC_minion
How do you explain the other blonde hairs in the sink drain that were not Danielle's?

He has a special slide-rule that says all of that is very common, but it is very unusual with Danielle's.

Pi times the cube root of the mean plausibility, doncha know ...?

311 posted on 07/22/2002 6:06:29 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Rheo
I am only commenting on an eye witness from day one (the front row reporter) saying that the bug men are NOT convincing the jury as determined by their reactions.

You and I have not seen the jury, have we? NO.

Remember your history, in the 1960 debate, those who only HEARD it on the radio said Nixion won, those who SAW it on TV said JFK won.

My point is, it is worth mentioning that the only EYE WITNESS reporter I have heard is getting a very different impression from the JURY REACTION than many DW fans are getting from the radio and TV WITHOUT SEEING THE JURY REACTION.

312 posted on 07/22/2002 6:06:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Spunky
So basically if my twelve year old looked at bugs for seven years he could be a certified expert witness when he becomes 19 ?

or

Seven years experience

An established number of continuing education units for the three year period prior to application

Plus


313 posted on 07/22/2002 6:07:08 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Travis McGee
Has Dusek yet explained why there was no evidence of
Westerfield in the VD home?
314 posted on 07/22/2002 6:07:46 PM PDT by crypt2k
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To: John Jamieson
I'm just passing on something I think is worth commenting on. For all I know the jury is reading Penthouse and Cosmo and Reader's Digest on their laps in secret and laughing at the jokes and cartoons.
315 posted on 07/22/2002 6:08:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
He should be considered innocent until proven guilty, but in this touchy-feely society we live in, he was convicted the minute someone pointed at "the creepy neighbor" and the media got wind of it. And those are the things that scare me to death.

Would you have found OJ not guilty because he acted like the glove didn't fit...when actually the glove was immersed in water and shrunk, and as bad as an actor as he is, he was able to act himself out of that...but I believe that jury was a bunch of ignorant people...plus this jury knew what they were going to do...they even had a party the night before the verdict...the trial was a sham....

As far as Westerfield, there's alot more evidence then meets the eye....anyone can rip apart any piece of evidence, especially since OJ...Cochran made a sham of forensics...yes there were mistakes, but they planted no evidence...MARK MY WORDS CAPPS..

You seem like a lovely person....I hope every juror would be as fair and open minded as you....

FreeGards From The Socialist Republic Of NY...

Karen AKA KLT

316 posted on 07/22/2002 6:08:23 PM PDT by KLT
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To: John Jamieson
They probably wanted new trials the day they were convicted. The people Henry Lee helped lock up want new trials too I bet. Did any of em get any?

How is Dusek going to be toast after Westerfield is convicted?

317 posted on 07/22/2002 6:08:28 PM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: NatureGirl
And if the dog didn't react - what? Dumb dog, bad dog, get out there and stand with the bug "experts"???

To me it means the dog didn't react. Nothing more. Only a positive reaction would be notable and even then it might be a false positive.

318 posted on 07/22/2002 6:08:56 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: willyone
You are the one with problems. If you have a problem with Poohbah why don't you get off the threads. Who the heck are you to not allow a different opinion? What do you have a DW shrine in your house or something? All I want is the guilty party, whoever that may be convicted and punished. This insect stuff considering it is only a guesstimate is interesting but not that accurate. The only thing important here that you said, is this

That is all any of us want. We want the jury to consider all the evidence and come to a FAIR and JUST conclusion based on PROOF BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.

If the INSECT STUFF is not that accurate, why did DUSEK hire FAULKNER to begin with? Why has DUSEK used FAULKNER repeatedly in other trials to win cases ?

319 posted on 07/22/2002 6:08:57 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: crypt2k
DW is a genius inventor and mensa member.

Anybody can walk into an OPEN home and carry away a solidly sleeping 7 year old on his shoulder without leaving clues. Just wear gloves and get rid of the clothes and shoes after.

320 posted on 07/22/2002 6:10:27 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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