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This was one of the mysteries that Erich Von Daniken used to explain his theories.
1 posted on 07/21/2002 1:15:50 PM PDT by vannrox
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Old Erich. Whatta fella. That Easter Island mytery would have been solved if he had only read Kon Tiki. parsy.
2 posted on 07/21/2002 1:21:00 PM PDT by parsifal
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What theories? (excuse my ignorance)
3 posted on 07/21/2002 1:21:44 PM PDT by AM2000
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OK, now I'm confused. Iron, oxygen, and hydrogen.

Isn't this RUST anyway?

4 posted on 07/21/2002 1:49:37 PM PDT by chaosagent
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Why didn't they put a picture with the article?!
5 posted on 07/21/2002 1:57:29 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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6 posted on 07/21/2002 2:00:43 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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Things were built better back then

and

The quality of oxygen isn't as good as it used to be.


12 posted on 07/21/2002 2:23:16 PM PDT by Consort
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Bump
15 posted on 07/21/2002 2:54:13 PM PDT by blam
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"The pillar—over seven metres high and weighing more than six tonnes—was erected by Kumara Gupta of Gupta dynasty that ruled northern India in AD 320-540. "

540 AD is the date of the cataclismic start of the worldwide Dark Ages. (I wonder if they are related?)

16 posted on 07/21/2002 3:00:10 PM PDT by blam
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Modern blast furnaces, on the other hand, use limestone in place of charcoal yielding molten slag and pig iron that is later converted into steel. In the modern process most phosphorous is carried away by the slag.

Too bad. Can you imagine how many vintage car bodies could still be around?
22 posted on 07/21/2002 8:15:03 PM PDT by aruanan
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Stating that the pillar is "a living testimony to the skill of metallurgists of ancient India",

No offense to these ancient Indians, but the odds of them knowing it would create some sort of rust barrier aren't high.

26 posted on 07/21/2002 8:24:53 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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Thought you guys might like this.
29 posted on 07/21/2002 8:38:55 PM PDT by AM2000
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thanks vannrox for posting this
I find it interesting
Love, Palo
33 posted on 07/22/2002 4:18:34 AM PDT by palo verde
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Von Daniken my ***. That said, here's one of the hits from Googling:
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Balasubramaniam... did Mossbauer spectroscopy of the rust samples. He shows that the phosphate was crystalline iron hydrogen phosphate hydride... The rust is composed of iron hydrogen phosphate hydrate (FePO 4.H3PO 4.4H2O) in the crystalline form in addition to a-, y-, o-FeOOH and magnetite, all in amorphous form. The process of protective rust formation on DIP iron has been outlined based on the rust analysis. The passive film formation on the Delhi iron pillar has been contrasted with rusting of normal and weathering steels. The critical factor aiding the superior corrosion resistance of the Delhi iron pillar is the formation of crystalline iron hydrogen phosphate hydrate, as a thin layer next the metal-scale interface, which drastically lowers the rate of corrosion due to its low porosity content. The formation of protective crystalline phosphate is aided by alternate wetting and drying cycles, which is the important contribution of the atmosphere to the pillar's corrosion resistance. Therefore, the corrosion resistance of the Delhi iron pillar is due to both Delhi (the environment providing alternate wetting and drying conditions) and iron (with its high P content conferring protection by the formation of the crystalline iron hydrogen phosphate).
Nothing about this mineral name, so A) perhaps it never caught on, or B) it was just a problem with the translation.
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35 posted on 09/10/2004 10:56:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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What about "corten" steel (what they make the "rusty" guard-rails and bridge beams out of)?

Wonder what the composition of that stuff is. Supposed to never need painting--as the rust forms a protective barrier. Sounds like the same process as what "misawite" is.


37 posted on 09/10/2004 11:16:10 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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One PILLAR doesn't testify to any skills but to an accident of chance. If there were hundreds of examples around, then they could crow. ...but perhaps those in the business will change their iron making methods or a chemist will develop a spray that will prevent rusting.
39 posted on 09/11/2004 9:39:28 AM PDT by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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Why is a two year old article breaking news?


53 posted on 09/12/2004 8:35:24 PM PDT by Casloy
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Just updating the GGG information, not sending a general distribution.

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55 posted on 07/11/2005 10:49:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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56 posted on 07/11/2005 10:54:01 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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Neat


59 posted on 07/12/2005 11:14:43 AM PDT by chuknospam
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Its really embarrassing when my iron pillar becomes unraveled.

That is all.

(cmon...someone had to say it)

60 posted on 07/12/2005 11:16:55 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (The function of socialism is to raise suffering to a higher level.)
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