Senate OK sends bill on 'live-birth' abortions to Bush

Washington Times ^ | 7/20/02 | Amy Fagan

[kattracks]

President Bush is expected to sign a bill passed by Congress ensuring that every infant born alive is considered a person under federal law

[Michael O Mahony]

That may be a far cry from what I was thinking, however, I see your point.

[He Rides A White Horse]

What would you concider it? Defeat?

Yeah, I do.

The day we need some special law to keep a newborn from being murdered.........what do you propose next? A special law to keep six year olds from being murdered? Ten year olds?

It just reaffirms in my mind what evil people we are facing; I'll say it again, these abortionists will be the worst murdering totalitarians you have ever seen......

....that is if you can bring yourself to call them what they are.

[Michael O Mahony]

38 million babies aborted. The American Holocaust

[toenail]

A nice victory would be for Bush to direct Tommy Thompson to investigate reports that Planned Parenthood and other Title X recipients are aiding and abetting child molestors by violating state laws concerning mandatory reporting of suspected abuse.

If Bush II were serious about his supposed pro-life convictions, he'd simply announce that he wants to make sure that taxpayer money isn't being used to protect child molestors. Who would disagree with him?

Bush II has a good (or bad, depending) angle: his father was co-author of Title X, the vehicle for conscripting taxpayer money for the great neo-Malthusian experiment in population control.

[Now cynical ol' me thinks this is just a gimme to placate conservatives and keep us on the Rockefeller Republican plantation. This bill, while good, will do nothing remotely substantial about stopping abortion. And both 'sides' know it.]

[He Rides A White Horse]

Good night Mahony, it's late here and I'm going to sleep.

Call them what you want to. I'll nod off with the same perception, and awaken with the same.

Later.

[Fast 1975]

Good intentions but not a matter for the federal government.

[goodieD]

If murdering babies is not for the feds, then by all that's holy, WHAT IS?? can you think of anything more important? Of course if you'd rather the government stayed out of it, that's fine, I'd be happy to round up the abortionists(murderers) and let the people decide how to deal with them.

[Marie Antoinette]

I guess the nurse, Jill Stanek, didn't rate a name in this article :-(

Here is her testimony to congress: http://www.priestsforlife.org/testimony/stanekbakercongress.htm

What ever became of her bid for office? Her www.jillstanek2002.com website is not around any longer.

[exDemMom]

It reaffirms how I feel. These people are the greatest threat walking around.

Exactly. They are no different than Ted Bundy, Jeffery Dahmer, Henry Lee Lucas [insert favorite murderer here], except that they went through medical school so that they could feed their bloodlust legally. How disgusting.

[toenail]

The Republican National Coalition for Life has info. Jill Stanek. Lost in the primary to the extreme pro-abort Republican, who happens to be on the hospital's governing council.

[Jhoffa_]

Bump on #4.

[Jhoffa_]

Horse, it sounds like this is an attempt to hold off judicial activism which might someday declare that a baby who has been born but has not yet breathed is not yet a person, or some similar rot.

No, no... don't be fooled..

This is one foot in the door for fetus=person.

This will be big, you wait and see.. It's the snowball that turned into an avalanche.

Just watch the precedent this sets..

[Fast 1975]

If murdering babies is not for the feds, then by all that's holy, WHAT IS??

Murder along with rape, robbery and other crimes are left to the states. But since we live in a time where Washington is expected to solve all problems- I'll accept it.

[nickcarraway]

Senate Passes Born-Alive Infants Act

[Missiekins]

"This is a great success for pro-lifers. Partial-Birth Abortions aren't called choice, they are called murder! "

I admit I didn't read the whole article but I got the impression this is different from partial birth abortion. This is an "abortion gone wrong" so to speak in that the baby is born alive and now, because the government says so, that baby has a right to live and must be given care. Partial birth abortion leaves no room for this to happen. Scissors jammed into the skull before the whole baby is born negates a live birth. It all makes me sick to my stomach. We are supposed to be so advanced as a society and yet the fact that killing babies, born or unborn is allowed to happen at all proves we are heathens. We haven't learned a damn thing. There should be no discussion. Just STOP ALL OF IT.

[Missiekins]

"If Tom Daschle ignores the people's agenda and refuses to bring the partial-birth abortion ban to the Senate floor during this term, we'll know this display of respect for the public was just a fluke."
The House is set to vote soon on a bill that would ban partial-birth abortion"

That's the last couple sentences to the article. A vote is coming on Partial Birth Abortion in the House. I live in Dayton, OH where PBA is done every day. Not a proud moment. I'd like to be there when that butcher has his brain pulled out through his penis. I never can remember his name. I think the Lord protects me in that way.

[VOYAGER]

President Bush is expected to sign a bill passed by Congress ensuring that every infant born alive is considered a person under federal law — a move that supporters say will prevent the practice of "live-birth" abortions.

The bill was aimed at infants who have survived an abortion attempt or are too undeveloped to survive.

Supporters of the bill say it is necessary to prevent so-called "live-birth" abortions, where the doctor induces premature labor and, if the baby is alive after birth, it is allowed to die.

All this dancing around the truth does not change the fact all deaths of babies, whether in the womb or partially delivered, by abortion performed for any reason is still

"MURDER"!!

I am sure God is not impressed with all this high muckety muck talk by the elite of this world and the abortionists and their enablers and that these murderers will not be held unaccountable!!

PAYDAY SOMEDAY!!

[grania]

Just watch the precedent this sets..

My hope would be that it would scare doctors out of performing partial birth abortions (I hate that oxymoron). Lawsuits and all that.

[Missiekins]

"You tell me what a 'live birth abortion is'..........:(

I refuse to yield this type of language to them. "


I'd have to say a live birth abortion is an abortion gone horribly wrong for the abortionist and right for the baby, providing the precious little one isn't armless or legless or a vegetable or........ it ain't pretty but that's no reason to not tell it like it is. Pro-aborts don't like to hear the truth. It should be plastered everywhere with graphics. It wouldn't last long after that.

[zip]

Under the bill, the legal definition of "person," "human being," "child" and "individual" under federal laws and federal agency rules would include any human who is born alive, meaning he or she is completely outside the mother's body and has a beating heart or shows other signs of life.

It's a start BUT IT IS STILL LEGAL TO INDUCE LABOR, HALT IT AND PUNCH A HOLE IN THE BABY'S HEAD AND SUCK THE BRAINS OUT. WHAT A COUNTRY!!!!!