UPDATE ON SAMANTHA (CA) Arrest made in murder!!!!!!!

7/19/02 | Joe Hadenuf

[Joe Hadenuf]

Update from OC Sheriff... Press conference..

Playing 911 tape of the people that found the body, male caller was extremely upset, and scared, he was crying, and telling 911 the location but the cell phone transmission was breaking up and was disconnected.

They called the telephone number he left before the disconnect and they called his home and got a messege machine. He called back within minutes and made contact again with 911 and was almost hysterical and crying saying it was little girl and was very distraught,

When Cell caller got home he called again from home phone and recontacted 911, 911 said they would pick him up and the he could show him where the body was.

End of 911 tape

Press conference continues, stating over 2000 citizens have given leads......

Another press conference at 6 PM

At 955 AM they made an arrest alihondro avial DOB 3-1375

[Bella_Bru]

I'll think of her next time I stand on the cliffs near Point Vicente. :-)

[xJones]

...assuming Kalifornia even has the death penalty.

Well, yes, California does have the death penalty, but it's few and far between: click

[Illbay]

You know, no matter how dastardly the deed, I have NEVER thought "we need to kill that person the same way as the victim was killed." I guess I just don't want to stoop to his level.

However, God sanctions the death of a murderer. Contrary to the silly, trite arguments of those who say "only God can take a life," I offer the following vignette:

A man sat atop the roof of his house, which was surrounded by rising floodwaters. He prayed to God that he might deliver him. Along came a man in a rowboat, and called out "Get in!"

The first man shook his head and called back "No, I'm sure that God is going to rescue me."

Some time later, as the floods continued to rise, coming just a few feet from the roof of his house, a helicopter dropped out of the sky and unrolled a ladder. The PA speaker on the chopper announce "We're here to rescue you! Grab the ladder!"

Again, the man on the roof shook his head, smiled and said "I have an assurance that God Himself will rescue me!"

Soon afterward, the waters engulfed the man's house, and he was swept away and drowned.

When he got to Heaven, he was admitted for his interview with God. The man asked, perplexed "But Lord, I prayed that you would rescue me! Why did you allow me to drown?"

"Well," said the Lord of All, "I sent you a boat and a helicopter. It's not my fault you refused them both!"

The government of the people acts as the Hand of God in cases such as this, and God most certainly sanctions it. To say otherwise is to deny that God can act, IMO.

[HamiltonJay]

I am reminded of Dante's Inferno and how perfectly appropriate the punishments were to the "crimes." I'm sure hell has a special place for this monster and that his "sentence" will far exceed OUR ideas of perfect justice.

That may be so, but make no mistake, no matter how far it exceeds our ideas, we still have every right to our pound of flesh to send him on his way... and I say it is far past we started taking it. Satan may have his soul for eternity, but we have his flesh and it is his flesh that will pay the price in this world... his soul can pay in the next.

[Kaslin]

I remember reading it over 40 years or more ago, and it is one, if not my most favorite novel

[isthisnickcool]

CBS just reported that Alejandro Avila's DOB is 03/13/1975.

You made a direct hit!

[AppyPappy]

You know, no matter how dastardly the deed, I have NEVER thought "we need to kill that person the same way as the victim was killed." I guess I just don't want to stoop to his level.

That's a lovely thought but that would mean you would not defend yourself if attacked.

[Freedom2specul8]

"I think far too many folks on here, claim to be loving caring christians, but few if any have ever read the book of Job, or other parts of the bible. Not every bad act that happens in this world is deserved, and not every immoral act is greated in kind. ...EVIL is not bound by borders or languages or race... EVIL is EVIL period. "

Amen!

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

His priors have been discussed at length on this thread. He was arrested for molestation of his girlfriend's daughter, but was acquitted.

Thanks. I jumped in late. Will have to go back and review the earlier popsts. The odds are of course overwhelmingly in favor of this -- it was no stretch of a bet.

[Uni-Poster]

They probably got that from reading the links here! LOL
I knew that had too be him. Everything was adding up.

[AmericanInTokyo]

can't argue with that

[Joe Hadenuf]

CBS just reported that Alejandro Avila's DOB is 03/13/1975.

You made a direct hit!

That was reported on post #5, however, it must be cautioned that without a SSN or other data, this could be the wrong individual with the same name and DOB

But probably unlikely. This is probably the same person. One just has to watch matching a name with DOB as there may be a few with the same......

[Rheo]

They said his DOB was 3/13/75.

thank for the link.

[KineticKitty]

I thought I explained fully what my reasons were? High population density, paying 10 times the amount for what a home is really worth, bad schools, illegal alien problems up the wazoo, everything turning into pavement instead of grass... etc etc etc etc etc etc. Crime is higher in the larger cities and highly populated area's, do you deny this? (IE; New York, Dallas, L.A. etc) The fact that crime has been getting worse in Southern California (notice I didn't say ONLY southern Cal?) Tells me things are not getting any better there, which {to me} backs my opinion up on why I do not wish to ever go back.

And I did not bring this sentiment up on this "crime thread", someone else did, I just agreed with their opinion of So. Cal, So if your debate is that I associate ONLY crime with California simply because brought up this in this particular thread, perhaps you should take this debate up with the original FR Members who originally brought that sentiment up.

But hey, thanks for telling me what I think.

[crystalk]

And YOU have post number 666! Talk about a direct hit!

[Rheo]

I thought it said those motions were denied??

[baseballfanjm]

Even if he is right on the assumption that the man is an illegal alien, this has nothing to do with immigration. Even if he is an illegal, there are plenty more perverts out there who are other races. And almost all of them have been here all their lives, I'd be willing to bet. What am I saying? I'm saying there is no connection between illegal aliens and these crimes and Dengar01 was trying to make one.

[Aliska]

Some guy tried to weasel his way into our lives about 25 years ago. I was divorced and he was after my daughters. It's a long story, but I had proof in the form of phony letters and I never called the police. I'm so mad at myself now. Who knows but what this guy went on to other victims?

I was just thankful to keep my daughters away from him, as I felt we had a very narrow escape. The police probably wouldn't have done anything anyway because I caught him red-handed at the intent stage.

I was so trusting of people back in those days. That episode really changed me. I'm mad at myself now because what I knew might have saved other children.

[Illbay]

Since you mention it, when was the last time there was an execution of the death penalty in California? I just can't recall, but I don't really pay much attention to that state.