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Freedom?! We don't need no steenking freedom!
1 posted on 07/18/2002 2:36:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It looks like you approve of what this lawsuit happy moron is doing.
2 posted on 07/18/2002 2:38:51 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Oh say does that star-spangled banner yet wave, o'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
4 posted on 07/18/2002 2:47:24 PM PDT by gunshy
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I never thoiught about it quite this way.
I had in mind that they were wanting to make sure that someone else wasn't taking your ticket.
If it IS the fedgov that's requiring this I might have to look at it in a different way.
5 posted on 07/18/2002 2:52:50 PM PDT by Just another Joe
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Index Bump
7 posted on 07/18/2002 3:00:00 PM PDT by Free the USA
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What a was of money. FAA Regulations the not 191's or so-called secret directives, they are however classified or law enforcement sensitive directives, requires only Photo Identification. Not Government Identification. As along as you have some form of ID that has a photo on it that is all that FAA requires. Everything else is an airline policy. That is it.
10 posted on 07/18/2002 3:12:36 PM PDT by habaes corpussel
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From Black's Law Dictionary, Fourth Edition, at page 1064:

THE BASIC LIBERTIES

The word "liberty" includes and comprehends all personal rights and their enjoyment.

It embraces freedom from duress,

freedom from governmental interference in exercise of intellect,

in formation of opinions,

in the expression of them,

and in action or inaction dictated by judgment,

freedom from servitude, imprisonment or restraint,

freedom in enjoyment and use of all of one's powers, faculties and property,

freedom of assembly,

freedom of citizen from banishment,

freedom of conscience,

freedom of contract,

freedom of locomotion or movement,

freedom of occupation,

freedom of press,

freedom of religion,

and freedom of speech.

It also embraces right of self-defense against unlawful violence,

right to acquire and enjoy property,

right to acquire useful knowledge,

right to carry on business,

right to earn livelihood in any lawful calling,

right to emigrate, and if a citizen, to return,

right to engage in a lawful business, to determine the price of one's labor, and to fix the hours when one's place of business shall be kept open,

right to enjoy to the fullest extent the privileges and immunities given or assured by law to people living within the country,

right to forswear allegiance and expatriate oneself,

right to freely buy and sell as others may,

right to labor,

right to live and work where one will,

right to marry and have a family,

right to pursue a chosen calling,

and, the right to use property according owner's will.


20 posted on 07/18/2002 4:01:47 PM PDT by handk
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I say let the market determine whether this is a good idea.

After a dozen or so planes from Freedom-Loving Airlines crash into skyscrapers, they'll either adapt or go belly up (assuming they could find enough Freedom-Loving pilots and flight attendants stupid enough to board those aircraft....)

26 posted on 07/18/2002 4:49:38 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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Freedom?! We don't need no steenking freedom!

Freedom to get on a plane with people who refuse to identify themselves? You can have it.

29 posted on 07/18/2002 5:06:08 PM PDT by aculeus
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Secret rule demanding 'Your Papers Please' claimed unconstitutional.

The rule is "Secret"? Hmmmmm. I've been asked to show my ID before flights for at least 5 years. I don't think it is a secret.

But, wait! I see! It makes the story much more interesting to have it sound like some sort of secret conspiracy.

I’ve read enough.

54 posted on 07/19/2002 9:39:01 AM PDT by TankerKC
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Uuhhhh... If it's a "secret rule", then why do they ask for ID every time I board a plane? I mean, if it were a secret, then doesn't asking me for ID kinda let the cat out of the bag? It's not much of a "secret rule" when everybody knows you have to show ID.

BTW: If the airlines themselves make it their company policy to ask for ID, then any rule, secret or otherwise, is moot.
76 posted on 07/19/2002 4:08:11 PM PDT by Redcloak
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