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1 posted on 07/18/2002 1:35:12 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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Some sample paragraphs from the article:

Some on Wall Street worry that the loss in wealth due to falling stock prices will cause consumers to spend less and save more, slowing economic growth. William C. Dudley, chief economist for Goldman Sachs and Co., said "there's disconnect" between Bush's policies -- such as extending last year's tax cut past 2011 -- and the problem. "It's the least optimal situation for an economy that's potentially in trouble to be cutting taxes not now but in the future."

Lawrence Kudlow, who was an economist with the Reagan administration, also criticized the Bush administration for its long-term view on taxes. "They seem to be a little slow reacting to changing events," he said. ...

Wall Street analysts and several economists also propose cutting the capital gains tax paid on profits from stock sales or eliminating all taxes on such profits if they are reinvested in new stocks. And some have pleaded with the White House to revisit its decision to impose steep tariffs on imported steel. "Bush's steel decision has really hurt the markets by creating a sense that we're going to have trade wars," said economist Stephen Moore of the Club for Growth.

2 posted on 07/18/2002 1:37:29 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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Accountant for the Welfare State has always been a GOP disaster; I simply do not understand the political logic of the Bush Team's Hoovernomics.
3 posted on 07/18/2002 1:38:25 PM PDT by JohnGalt
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A lot of 'solutions' but first define the problem. Buchanan with Press 7-17-02


       BUCHANAN: "Thank you, Bill. I want to talk today a little bit about what’s going on in the economy, because it concerns a lot of folks. And one of the reasons you have got real problems in the market, the Nasdaq has lost 75 percent of its value, and the Dow has lost about 30 percent of its value-that equals in the United States, since the peak of the market, over $5 trillion dollars in equity has been wiped out.
       Worldwide it’s over $11 trillion. Now people aren’t saying why it is. And I’ll tell you one reason they’re ignoring. It is the collapse of the American dollar overseas against the yen and the euro.
       Why is the dollar falling? Too many dollars are out there. All over the world a wash. How are they getting out there? Three ways. American foreign aid shovels them out of the United States. Second, IMF and World Bank bail-outs of year ago, they shovelled all those dollars out there. But third and most important, since Y2K began, January 1, 2000, the United States has run $1 trillion in merchandise trade deficits.
       That’s right, more goods, a trillion dollars more goods pouring into America from foreign factories than going out from America.
       What does that mean? It means manufacturing is dying in the United States of America. Jobs are going overseas. The great economic independence of the United States is being lost and, more important now, it means it’s coming right home to River City, and it’s starting to kill the American dream. Congress has got to get off this global free trade, which is killing this market. "

Since we now have an 'information-service' economy instead of an industrial, maybe we can export some information (audited) some hamburgers or some dot.gone knowhow.

9 posted on 07/18/2002 1:48:15 PM PDT by ex-snook
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Don't believe a word Dana Milbank or Jonathan Weisman writes.
Milbank just got through writing a hit piece on Chenney.
They are actively doing anything they can to undermine president Bush and his administration.
12 posted on 07/18/2002 1:50:19 PM PDT by bomper
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The Washington Post pushing for tax cuts? Democrats want a capital gains tax cut? Did hell freeze over?
13 posted on 07/18/2002 1:50:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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There is NO WAY that Dasshole will ever allow a capital gains tax cut to be voted on in Congress. The Dems WANT the market to stay bad for political gain.
19 posted on 07/18/2002 1:53:34 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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I'm feeling pain?
24 posted on 07/18/2002 1:56:03 PM PDT by linn37
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C'mon folks, get Bush to cut capital gains and the Dems pounce all over THAT with the predictable: "See, he's cutting taxes for the rich, while us little guys see our 401k get whittled to pennies."

Look how Cheney is getting chastised for selling his Haliburont stock due to a perceived conflict of interest, now he sold it due to insider trading.

Democrats who are cheering the current economy for political gains suck, plain and simple.

29 posted on 07/18/2002 1:59:35 PM PDT by SGCOS
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Two comments on capital gains taxes:

1) It is utterly pointless to "eliminate taxes if invested in other stocks". The only effect that has is to increase commissions by brokerages. The idea is to free up capital to be invested, not in secondary markets, but directly into companies so they can use it. Stocks sold on the NASDAQ are owned by someone other than the company.

2) Without radical changes in the way the Federal Reserve is operating, a capital gains tax cut right now would be a disaster. Tax cuts create future demand for liquidity (i.e. money) and unless the Fed is able to supply enough of it, it will re-ignite the deflation that has caused the economic wreckage you see before you. I am whole-heartedly in favor of reducing/eliminating capital gains but ONLY if it is coupled with changes to the operations of the Federal reserve.

33 posted on 07/18/2002 2:02:02 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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Cutting capital gains taxes would not have much effect on anything in the short term. That's because very few people have capital gains in the stock market. None, Zip, Zero, Nada.

It might have a modest "feel good" impact by making people say "Gee, if I can make the price of stocks increase, I will have capital gains and I won't have to pay a lot in taxes".

Big deal.
35 posted on 07/18/2002 2:02:59 PM PDT by jackbill
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Excuse but dont you have to have capital GAINS in order to pay capital gains tax? With the market the way it is Im not sure how this is going to help.

What's the benefit of capital gains tax cut when there are probably so many losses already on the books that it may be years before many investors have any gains that they owe tax on? I mean capital losses offset captital gains dollar for dollar.

41 posted on 07/18/2002 2:07:18 PM PDT by Dave S
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bush doesn't want to cut...he wants to spend...he doesn't believe in capital gain cuts...
55 posted on 07/18/2002 2:18:52 PM PDT by Bill Davis FR
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Bush learned the wrong lesson from Reagan. Reagans tax cuts were very successfull and they did work, it took some time, but his tax cuts resulted in a strong economy, that breifly went down under Bush, and then as he was leaving office went back up again and was strong even under an incompetant clinton. Bush seems to think that his tax cuts will work (which they will), but he isn't seeing that he can get even mroe from cutting the capital gains tax. Settling for something that is long term when you can have long term and short term is stupid. He can have both, made the economy strong now and then watch it get even stronger and better when the tax cuts start to really take a strong effect even though they should be cut more. Just cut the god damn thing already.
91 posted on 07/18/2002 4:13:55 PM PDT by Sonny M
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Bush has shown almost zero leadership on the economy. The tax rebate was a nice gesture....but only a gesture. This will play right into the hands of the Democrats. They don't need to fix the problem....they just have to blame Bush for a failing economy. Bush is the one who needs to do something powerful and dramatic. It may be bad tasting medicine....but he needs to show true leadership and connect with the American people. Otherwise, the Dems will chew him up in the next election. However, I don't have much faith this will happen. After all, the Bush bunch were all up to their necks in the stuff that is leading to the loss of confidence in America. He'll have to buck the tide, admit mistakes, and step up to the plate...and smack a dinger! I hope he does it.
109 posted on 07/19/2002 9:59:34 AM PDT by hove
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Shame I can't read the article because it's on the Washington Post...I'll just have to see if I can find a similar article in a better quality publication.
110 posted on 07/19/2002 10:10:37 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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It says the Republican and conservative economists, and Wall Street economists, want Bush to press for more tax cuts - such as capital gains cuts - to help the tanking stock market.

More nonsense equating the stock market with the economy.
A capital gains tax cut only benefits the paper pushers on Wall Street.
It does absolutely NOTHING to address the fundamentals of operating a business in America.

111 posted on 07/19/2002 10:19:29 AM PDT by Willie Green
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I am kind of curious who has capitol gains these days?
116 posted on 07/19/2002 11:38:10 AM PDT by Always Right
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I think I saw this movie before.

tarpon
126 posted on 07/20/2002 1:50:59 PM PDT by snooker
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