The states shot the goose that laid the golden egg. The states are now gutting the goose to get more eggs out of it. It's too late.
1 posted on
07/18/2002 6:11:33 AM PDT by
SheLion
To: *puff_list; Just another Joe; Gabz; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; red-dawg; ...
"I'm very concerned about the selling of cigarettes online because of the ease that children can buy them," said Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., co-chair of the Congressional Internet Caucus. "That's an issue we need to address." Always about the kiddies and usually by a RINO.
2 posted on
07/18/2002 6:13:02 AM PDT by
SheLion
To: SheLion
The states shot the goose that laid the golden egg. Indeed they did. I just started ordering online. Spouse and I each consume 6 cartons/month. We are saving close to $150 per month compared to pricing at "discount" retailers here is Illinois.
To: SheLion
some lawmakers say concern over health risks related to smoking outweigh anti-tax sentiments.They have already proved that it is not the health concern, but the budget concern driving this idiocracy.
To: SheLion
"I'm very concerned about the selling of cigarettes online because of the ease that children can buy them,"And here comes the old standby excuse.
To: SheLion
Here in WA state, at $37/carton for name brand, Costco sells cigarettes about as cheap as you can get outside of the reservations. $28/carton is starting to sound good.
14 posted on
07/18/2002 6:29:35 AM PDT by
SW6906
To: SheLion
"I'm very concerned about the selling of cigarettes online because of the ease that children can buy them," said Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., co-chair of the Congressional Internet Caucus. "That's an issue we need to address." I'd like Rep. Goodlatte to explain to me how children are ordering cigarettes over the internet without credit cards. How many kids under 18 do you know that have a credit card that mommy and daddy don't get the bill (and would see the charge for Internet cigarettes)? Then, where are they having them delivered such that their parents or siblings don't get the mail?
This is just an excuse for more government, I don't care what his ACU rating is.....
19 posted on
07/18/2002 6:32:50 AM PDT by
SW6906
To: SheLion
Lewis, whose home state of Connecticut, which just raised cigarette taxes 62 cents, has already lost $6.3 million in cigarette tax revenues this year. In a effort to bridge the budget gap a 62 cent increase was implemented.
Didn't work did it.
I wonder if Roland's mother is buying smokes in New Hampshire.
To: SheLion
"Right now, the law is pretty much being ignored," said Ribisl. "State tax authorities are just now trying to figure out how to handle the issue."
Differences between the Government and organized crime:
OC: When money changes hands, we get a cut.
Gov: When money changes hands, we get a cut...ok, nevermind that one.
OC: Pay us, and we will protect you.
Gov: Pay us, and we will protect you...hmmm, nevermind again.
OC: If you do not pay us, we will send our thugs to destroy your stuff.
Gov: If you do not pay us, we will send our thugs to take your stuff....OK, there it is, I knew there must be a difference somewhere...
27 posted on
07/18/2002 6:43:12 AM PDT by
itzmygun
To: SheLion
Remember history about the Boston Tea Party?
Looks like the Tobacco Butt Party to tell elected politicos to butt has begun!
Compare prices at
cigaretteyellowpages.com.
Enough is enough! Go pick on .... fast foods or pet grooming products or some other "luxury" item!
28 posted on
07/18/2002 6:43:24 AM PDT by
TomGuy
To: SheLion
I begin to regret not having chosen a criminal life. Our legislators never stop providing lucrative criminal opportunities.
29 posted on
07/18/2002 6:44:44 AM PDT by
decimon
To: SheLion
TIME TO LEARN HOW TO GROW YOUR OWN.
31 posted on
07/18/2002 6:45:23 AM PDT by
Khepera
To: SheLion
38 posted on
07/18/2002 6:54:49 AM PDT by
TomGuy
To: SheLion
"I'm very concerned about the selling of cigarettes online because of the ease that children can buy them," said Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va.DO IT FOR THE CHHIIILLLLDREEEEENNNNNnnnnn.... If it saves ONE LIFE......
To: SheLion
Once again, the geniuses in government have failed to do a dynamic analysis. Their static analysis assumes both inelasticity of demand--smokers are addicts and will smoke just as much whatever the cost--and, more importantly, inability to go elsewhere if they do continue smoking at the same rate.
The classic example of this wrongheaded thinking occurred in New Jersey under the previous governor, Christie (RINO) Whitman. She was sold a bill of goods that the expensive implementation of EZ Pass for tolls would be totally funded by fines paid by scofflaws who had previously driven through without paying but would now be captured on video and pay fines of twenty-five to several hundred dollars, depending upon how often they were caught. Whitman and her administration were caught totally by surprise when, guess what?, scofflaws who were in iminent danger of being caught, actually began paying their nickel and time tolls. Duh!
To: SheLion
The"States"really "shot themselves in the foot"on this one!While prouncing to one and all their supposedly"Noble"intentions(stop teen smoking/lowering health-care costs),they and their GREEDY LIARS FOR HIRE shook down "Big Tobacco"for BILLIONS!!!!What happened to all of that money?I'll tell you where it went,it went into the general"Rat Hole"otherwise known as the budget!!!Then,they raised taxes on cigarettes to"discourage smoking"They spent the money,they are AWASH in HYPOCRISY,and they have created a "Black Market"!!!!!!!!!
To: SheLion
I have a question regarding the Indians selling tobacco. If they can gamble, etc. on their reservations because it's considered their jurisdiction, I don't see how anyone can stop them from selling cigaretts over the internet -- can't they use the same law that lets them set up gambling to exempt them from whatever nonsense the state's have set up on tobacco sales? I don't really understand the law in this area, but it looks to me like the states might not be able to stop this.
To: SheLion
"The ATF estimates that $1.5 billion have been lost to online cigarette sales"
Uh, sorry...but we have subconscious liberal media bias here....they have it backwards. As I see it, $1.5 billion has been SAVED due to online cigarette sales.
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