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Man Arrested For Burning Kitten on Grill
AP/CNN | 7-16-02 | my favorite headache

Posted on 07/16/2002 3:21:27 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

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To: All
Past my bedtime, and the thread has degenerated into those irritating cryptic comments that so many posters find so clever.
221 posted on 07/16/2002 8:13:56 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: shaggy eel
"They've been unable to effectively separate the abstract (the story) from reality."

They are angry. They can't get past their rage. Rational thought is not possible.

And trying to interject any other discussion (other than let's torture this perp) makes you a target for their anger as well.

222 posted on 07/16/2002 8:17:29 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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To: Bob Mc
Past my bedtime, and the thread has degenerated into those irritating cryptic comments that so many posters find so clever.
223 posted on 07/16/2002 8:19:50 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Britton J Wingfield
Talk is cheap.
224 posted on 07/16/2002 8:20:51 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: cake_crumb
"Rob stated that as long as it was animals and not people, the perp should remain free and not be punished."

Yes Rob stated he should not be punished by the law. Rob also stated in other words his friends are free to shun this guy (as punishment).

We state that it is not a matter of the law. We stated in several posts, we don't approve of what he did. But you ignore this, and you attack us, as if we support what he did.

225 posted on 07/16/2002 8:24:10 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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To: inflorida
...WITH the exception of your EXCELLENT montague, of course!

G'night all.

226 posted on 07/16/2002 8:24:44 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: RobRoy
You, SIR, have a SERIOUS PROBLEM with the "Nature of Sentience!"

If a "Creature" can interact with humans in such a fashion that it can help it's Human "Family" avoid Calamity, or avoid physical risk, that "Creature" CANNOT be regarded as a "Biological Automaton!"

SOMEWHERE in the "Assessment" of this "Creature" one MUST accept that the "Creature" acted to protect NOT ONLY Itself, but also it's Human family!

A Pretty sophisticated thought process for a "Meat Automaton,"--hhhhmmmmnnn???

We are WAY BEHIND the "Power Curve" in understanding WHO are the "non-sentient Food Creatures," & Who "we can Eat!!"

Doc

227 posted on 07/16/2002 8:25:37 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: shaggy eel
" ...the thread has degenerated into those irritating cryptic comments that so many posters find so clever."

Can't leave without one last attack, can you?

228 posted on 07/16/2002 8:28:19 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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To: Bob Mc
Past my bedtime, and the thread has degenerated into those irritating cryptic comments that so many posters find so clever.


229 posted on 07/16/2002 8:29:40 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Bob Mc
Sorry shaggy eel, that last post was meant for cake crumb.
230 posted on 07/16/2002 8:30:42 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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To: Bob Mc
Can't leave without one last attack, can you?

,,, which was my first, Bobby?

231 posted on 07/16/2002 8:33:14 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Bob Mc
,,, OOOps! Sorry Bob - you were going to wear it! I'm composed again now. The doctor's pleased with my progress. Really, he is.
232 posted on 07/16/2002 8:34:37 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Lazamataz
Past my bedtime, and the thread has degenerated into those irritating cryptic comments that so many posters find so clever.
233 posted on 07/16/2002 8:35:43 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: All
I agree that you can't put animals on the same legal or moral level as humans, that is simply common sense.

But at the same time, I am sorry for those who see all animals as simply "walking, souless meat" or mere property. The joy I have recieved from owning and living with cats is a pleasure I would be sorry to have missed in life. I don't think this would be possible with a non-emotional outlook on animals.

I have dispatched suffering animals, including a pet of my own. I am not a sob-sister. There are good ethical and practical reasons for laws against cruelty to animals. One does not need to be ruled solely by emotion to believe this.

I have "rescued" animals from bad situations. I have killed animals that I wanted for food. There is a time and place for everything, and a blanket PETA attitude that all animals are equal to humans is just as annoying as the idea that all animals are just things, and we should have a right to do with them as we will, as long as they are our lawful property.

It is not that complicated, really. Animals are not on an equal footing with us, but they are God's creatures, and that means they should not be abused nor idolized.

234 posted on 07/16/2002 8:36:24 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: shaggy eel
Past my degeneration, and the posters have irritated into those clever bedtimes that so many threads find so cryptic.


235 posted on 07/16/2002 8:38:02 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Askel5
Why is The One Kitten such a big deal?

It isn't about this kitten. Today it is this kitten. Tomorrow it will be some other example of cruelty committed by people. I grieve them because I love mine and consider animals to be absolutely innocent. That is the benefit animals have in not being human. They always have my sympathy, where humans can blow it.

We are being jerked around... First, by the reporter who printed it. Why is the reporter wrong? - Because it is a freaky occurance, not a news story, and all of us would be better off if we did not know about it at all. I grant you that. This is no different than the national media jerking us around with stories and photos of children abducted on the other side of the country. Tragedies that we can do nothing about but gape in horror at the thought, and wait for the inevitable news of a small battered body found in a swamp.

They all can't break my heart. Not all the kittens and puppies, and not all murdered children. Our collective hearts should not be yanked around like this... I do not have enough blood in me to bleed for every tragedy. I grant you that.

Then we get yanked around by the poster who put it here, knowing that it will inspire a toxic collision between us softies that are horrifed, and those that think being horrified over the suffering of an animal makes you a liberal and an animal rights freak. They say ugly things just to set everyone else off, and away we go on the thread just like a thousand times before. Most people who have a tortured kitten thrown in front of them would find it sad. If you don't agree, then have the courtesy to leave people alone that do. There is no good conservative cause to be argued over a tortured kitten. This one is for the heart.

I often avoid these threads because I hate being reminded of the evil blackness in people, both the perpetrators in the article, who I am helpless to attack, and in the posters who say callous things... Those, I can fire back at. And sometimes I do when the posters piss me off with their callousness.

and back to your grandma, she forgot that she had 30 years to deal with the incident. You had a few minutes. For you to hear the story and feel nothing would be to not value its life at all... Doing the right thing to end it does not erase the sadness for the situation. The situation is still sad. My step-dad and I had to kill a cat that was hit by someone else and left wiggling in the road. Of course killing it was the right thing to do, but it left me sad. Less sad now than then. That is what time does. Time is in the mind... for you, it had just happened... 30 years had not passed.

236 posted on 07/16/2002 8:38:33 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: RobRoy
You need to get educated on the crime statistics correlating animal abusers with torture and murder of children and adults. These sickos do NOT draw a line between humans and animals -- if it can suffer, they enjoy torturing it. The FBI and most major police departments routinely cross-check their databases between child abuse and animal abuse, because the perp matches are so common.
237 posted on 07/16/2002 8:44:35 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: HairOfTheDog
Yer pretty cool.
238 posted on 07/16/2002 8:44:44 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: HairOfTheDog
Very nice post. Thanks.

But who on this thread "... think being horrified over the suffering of an animal makes you a liberal and an animal rights freak" ?

239 posted on 07/16/2002 8:44:59 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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To: Lazamataz; Uncle Meat
Cryptic bedtime posters have irritated clever threads into posters that find my past degeneration.
240 posted on 07/16/2002 8:45:11 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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