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Should I have viewed Pearl's death?
National Post ^ | July 16 2002 | Alexander Rose

Posted on 07/16/2002 2:06:23 PM PDT by knighthawk

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To: Senator Pardek; Lurker
Nice to see some of the old hands/old minds, eh?

We haven't gone away - most of us with any sense, and sense of history are preparing for what's to come.
61 posted on 07/16/2002 8:54:51 PM PDT by Noumenon
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To: Senator Pardek; GatorGirl; tiki; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; ...
These savages (and their worldwide supporters) have no place at The Table Of Humanity, and if thet choose not to reform, must be exterminated at any cost.

Well then, that's that. Who will be your Eichmann? What tool will you exterminate these untermensch with, Zyklon-B? Shall we rebuild Belsen to satisfy your blood lust? Perhaps you could find some psuedo-religous order to help with your mission to purify the earth of these vermin, yes? And you do need a Streicher and a Goebbels to help educate the rest of us as to the evils that justify this final solution, this ethnic cleansing you propose.

After all, now that you have defined them as savages unworthy of "The Table Of Humanity", well then, the commandment, "Thou shall not kill" fades to black and blood lust wins.

62 posted on 07/16/2002 9:03:33 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses
Thou shall not kill

Being neither Christian nor Jew, that Commandment means nothing to me. If you charge me with fist or knife, I will kill you and lose no sleep.

The Nazis did not kill Jews because Jews wanted to kill all Germans. Assuming that was the case, Germans would not have given the Jews a second chance. All of Islam should be on bended knee, worshipping our forbearance.

63 posted on 07/16/2002 9:11:20 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: esopman
America is profoundly asleep. Drugged by wealth, a mind-numbing media and giddy excesses. Freepers and their counterparts scattered around the republic are an anomaly, a minority of the populace. This is a terrible acknowledgement: Would another 9/11 wake us up? Really up?

I fear you are right, and that scares me to death. Even when we do wake up, the mind numbing media is sure to lull us back to sleep.

64 posted on 07/16/2002 9:13:34 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Noumenon
It's going to be really tough to fight a 'war' with people who are willing to strap bombs to themselves and walk into the local Pizza Hut and kill 'infidel' teenagers.

It's even tougher when the ingredients for those bombs can be purchased at tens of thousands of hardware stores across the country.

Further compounding the situation is the fact that it's not just difficult, but practically impossible to close down the avenues of supply in what is supposed to be a 'free country'.

The only thing we have in our favor is that our opponents don't seem to be able to find anything more than barely literate idiots willing to carry out their insane schemes. So far that is.

If these clowns ever manage to recruit someone with an intellect of, oh say, Carlos The Jackal we are going to be in some really deep excrement my friend.

I'm not worried about some radioactive 'dirty bomb' and I'm not worried about anthrax or Sarin gas. (Although those folks in Japan a few years back showed how ridiculously easy it is to make stuff like that.)

I'm worried about a couple of dozen sleeper cells of 3 to 4 people a piece showing up at shopping malls around the good old USA with some AK-47s smuggled in wrapped in cocaine with some Soviet era RPGs for good measure all on the same day.

Hell, if it were me, I wouldn't attack on the 4th of July. I'd plan it for the day after Thanksgiving and target the Mall Of The Americas and a few others.

Until our esteemed Texan In Chief goes on national TV and declares the leaders of Hamas, Hezbollah, the PFLP, as well as the governments of about half a dozen Middle Eastern hell holes (yea, I mean the Saudi government too) enemies of the United States and calls for not just their overthrow but their extermination we won't have a prayer.

We are in some real pretty shit my friend and the sad thing is that almost noone realizes exactly how deadly the danger is or if they do, they aren't shouting it from the virtual rooftops via CNN.

It's only a matter of time until these bastards hit us again and it's going to make 9-11 look like a warmup. They may not kill as many people but they sure as hell are going to have Peter Jennings and Dan Rather wetting their pants.

If GWB wants to convince the world that we are serious, he could start by putting a bounty on Arafats head. 10 Million US should do it. He'd last about a week IMO.

I'm getting pretty tired of watching us pussy foot around with people who cut the heads of Wall Street Journal reporters and murder teenagers eating pizza.

They don't deserve to be negotiated with. They deserve to be exterminated without remorse or pity. If it means we have to destroy entire cities then so freaking be it.

This isn't a war, it's a freaking joke. War means you seek out the enemy and destroy them wherever you find them. We know who the enemy is, and we know where they are. All we lack is the will to do what must be done in order to save the lives of our countrymen, or friends, and our families.

I'm not talking about rounding up muslims who live in this country. Hell, my kid plays with muslim kids. I'm talking about putting steel on those lunatics around the world who cheer when thousands of our citizens are murdered and then hold telethons for the families of the murderers.

Oh well, you know me well enough to know who I'm talking about my friend and I have ranted on long enough for now.

Personally, I don't care if we have to nuke Riyadh, Beruit, Aman, or freaking Paris to rid the world of this filth. Just do it and be done with it.

Anyone who takes to themselves the right to 'convert' me to Islam at the point of the sword has made of themselves my enemy and I won't feel the least bit guilty about killing them, their entire family, and everyone who lives in whatever vermin infested corner of the world they call a country.

Now, that being said; I'm going on vacation for a week or so. I've rented a big ass RV that gets about 3 miles to the gallon. It's got a flush toilet, a shower, AC, a CD player and a VCR. I'm taking Clan Lurker behind the Cheddar Curtain for a few days.

We are going to eat too much, drink too much, do some fishing, some hiking, and waste a lot of ammunition practicing our skills out where Jesus lost his sandals. We'll be back in a week or so.

You take care my friend. It's awfully good to see you about again. There are far too many deck chair rearrangers about who haven't a clue as to where the real fight is, or even what it's really about.

I'll give you a call when I get back.

Regards,

L

65 posted on 07/16/2002 9:21:55 PM PDT by Lurker
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To: Senator Pardek
The Nazis did not kill Jews because Jews wanted to kill all Germans.

But they did claim just that.

Assuming that was the case, Germans would not have given the Jews a second chance.

And do tell, how many "second chances" did they get at Buchenwald or Treblinka?

All of Islam should be on bended knee, worshipping our forbearance.

All of Islam out to worship you? Wow. Because believe me, you speak not for me.

66 posted on 07/16/2002 9:22:29 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses
Are you prepared to tell me that Islam does not have a long term goal to wipe out the world's one legitimate religion, Catholicism?

Your cute image was propaganda with no truth behind it - Muslims slaughter and imprison many Christians every day - just for being Christian.

67 posted on 07/16/2002 9:40:06 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: knighthawk
I think we would each have to answer that question between ourselves and God--should I have watched this or that.

In terms of the violence of the beheading . . . stay tuned . . . coming to a street corner near you . . . beheadings a plenty.

We have done enormous and astronomical violence to the unborn and the being born and the almost born.

We have made wealthy gods and goddesses of those skilled at Hollyweed violence.

We are, in short, addicted to violence as a nation; as a generation; as a culture.

Harvestime. . . Maya Angeleu (sp?) wrote about harvestime. We tend to have the delusion that when we plant grapes, we'll get Porches. Or when we plant cactus, we'll get mangoes.

Alas, we WILL reap what we have so liberally sown.

It happens to be a universal law. The Blood of Christ can sometimes moderate it or even remove it on an individual basis when there's deep heart-felt repentance and earnest effort toward a different walk and probably on restitution as well.

But even after 9/11, there seems to be precious little of such.

The wealthier are getting wealthier with more violence. The ungodly do more violence to any hint of God in the public square. The innocent are assailed even to the point of kittens on the Bar-B-Q and laughter seems to be the response of the day.

The violent will NOT have the last laugh. God speaks of laughing in derision at the wicked.

We must be cautious in our response when the wicked fall. We want not their judgement. But fall they will. . . dramatically, supernaturally, startlingly. . . and the houses that fall with them will make a LOT of dust. . . hard for everyone to breathe.

Every choice, every decision, every action is toward life or toward death. Every choice and act toward death is violent at it's core.

Hatred unrepented; forgiveness unextended at root tends to be murderous. Violence as most wickedness is bound up in the heart of man.

There is a Remedy extended on the lonely hill 2000 odd years ago. Hearts, minds, wills and actions must choose it.

But if the question is merely should one have viewed a video of a decapitation . . . in general terms, it will turn out to be a moot point--local neighborhoods will have plenty of opportunity face to face as well as the nightly news.

Stay tuned.

The times, they are a-changin'.
68 posted on 07/16/2002 9:44:41 PM PDT by Quix
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To: reagan_fanatic
"the fact that we are up against an enemy who is completely devoid of human soul and utterly possesed of the devil"
I have seen both videos, and I believe I have scarred my very soul! I want payback, I want these demons exterminated! I want their whole land and families sterilized with nuclear hell and I want it now!
I believe Islam is straight from hell!
I know this is wrong, but God help me, I'm pissed

69 posted on 07/16/2002 10:34:15 PM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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To: Noumenon
this "brand" of Islam is what lies at the core of every Islamic sect...
"He who has eyes, let him see...
this has become so evident to me since 911, obviously to you also. Why can't other people see what a deadly cancer this is to our civilization?

70 posted on 07/16/2002 10:45:32 PM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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To: dennisw
This kind of stuff is what you can buy at the local mosque, together with all the Chechen home-videos. These people get a mental rush from seeing these things.
71 posted on 07/16/2002 11:31:28 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: aculeus
I cannot help but sense a certain prurient interest evident in this thread, as though we're reacting in EXACTLY the manner Pearl's murderers intended.

I don't think it's necessary to watch this.

We all saw plenty more than we needed to last fall.

If September 11 didn't convince you that evil exists -- and poses a "clear and present danger," nothing will.

72 posted on 07/17/2002 12:43:22 AM PDT by glorygirl
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To: knighthawk
This kind of stuff is what you can buy at the local mosque, together with all the Chechen home-videos. These people get a mental rush from seeing these things.

----> Mental rush is a good description.
73 posted on 07/17/2002 3:16:32 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
Yes, when you see them all hyped up after the Friday prayers by the imam, this is a good way to describe it. They enter a state of frenzy and are ready to go out and do some jihad.

Born to kill. Allah's will.

74 posted on 07/17/2002 3:46:35 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: Quix
we WILL reap what we have so liberally sown

You are right. We are sold out to the militants by the 'do-gooders'.

75 posted on 07/17/2002 1:33:13 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk; narses
Every American should watch this video.

These Islamicist Terrorists use the beheading to create what they imagine is a "slick" commercial to try to persuade Americans to petition their government to give in to their demands.

76 posted on 07/17/2002 4:12:40 PM PDT by Dajjal
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