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To: dsutah
Get real. Lots of women have children that are fathered by men they later realize they don't particularly like. That doesn't mean they can deprive the fathers of their children.

Regardless of how you feel about Michael Newdow personally, you have to admit that most men wouldn't uproot their entire lives to be closer to their children and most men wouldn't meekly pay nearly double their salary in child support. Michael Newdow, whatever else he may or may not be, is doing his best to be a good father under circumstances that would try the best of men.
74 posted on 07/16/2002 7:15:44 PM PDT by flyervet
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To: flyervet
Michael Newdow, whatever else he may or may not be, is doing his best to be a good father under circumstances that would try the best of men.

Sounds more like he's angry his daughter doesn't belong to his church.

Newdow, a part-time resident of Fort Lauderdale, also argues that his five-year-old daughter, whom he's raising to be an atheist like himself, shouldn't be subjected to the pledge every morning. It will only make her feel like an "outsider," he says, and the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that the government cannot endorse religious belief precisely because such an endorsement alienates nonbelievers.

"At age five," he writes in his appeal, "this harm is especially acute, since she will be unable to… deal with its consequences."

He's a minister of atheism, ordained by the Universal Life Church, a controversial California entity that has ordained millions of ministers of all stripes and beliefs at the mere asking. Newdow says he'll be opening his church, the First Amendment Church of True Science (FACTS), soon, likely on the Internet.


78 posted on 07/16/2002 7:35:06 PM PDT by syriacus
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To: flyervet
Ok, ok, maybe you're right and wrong about him. I certainly don't know him or the girlfriend. But why are you so willing to jump to his defense, and trashing her? Does she appear to be a feminazi? She doesn't fit the description of one. Not of the ones I've read about!

She seems to be a lady who may not have been particularly religious before when she met him, but when she had the child, she decided to go back to church, and became more conservative in her faith. Who knows what happened, that's my guess. I've known some women, and men to have done that.

Perhaps like you say, he is contributing to the care of the child, but how do you know? We can only take his word for it now. Don't you think maybe she is working too, and taking care of the child. But this is going to hurt her relationship (the child)with her dad, if he goes on antagonizing people. He may have a valid fight with the family courts, but why is he lying about the child being hurt, when she obviously isn't? Isn't that teaching her to hide behind people, and lie, and get what you want at the expense of other people?

I have a uneasy feeling that there is someone, or a group of people behind him, putting him up to do this. He may have money and means, but enough to live on, contribute to his child's upkeep, and go around from courtroom to courtroom antagonizing people?

One day he's liable to push someone too far, and they'll hurt him, or wind up in prison with his courtroom antics. How is he going to see his daughter grow up then? She's either going to grow up being afraid of him, or angry with him for ruining her childhood. He appears to be an angry, bitter man, always looking for a fight.
93 posted on 07/16/2002 9:20:52 PM PDT by dsutah
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