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The Wichita Massacre
Front Page Magazine ^ | 7/16/2002 | Stephen Webster

Posted on 07/16/2002 5:47:40 AM PDT by Joe Brower

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1 posted on 07/16/2002 5:47:40 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: Joe Brower
Black Racism: The Hate Crime That Dare Not Speak It's Name.


2 posted on 07/16/2002 5:59:43 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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The best explanation I've heard for this lack of interest in black on white crime versus the waves of propaganda following a white on black crime (the latest being the Inglewood police video) is that the media liberal believes that white Americans are racist, homophobic and prone random outbreaks of violence. Therefore, white on black crime, crime on homosexuals are played up tremendously and we are all given the lesson that this is bad and that straight white Americans ought to stop their evil ways. When Jesse Dirkhising is kidnapped, repeatedly raped and murdered by two homosexual lovers, that is not news or a problem. When Matthew Shepard is robbed, beaten and murdered by two lowlifes, then that is a lesson for all straight white Americans.

Of course this is sick, but that is the media. That is what they believe and what they do.

3 posted on 07/16/2002 6:06:24 AM PDT by Kermit
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To: Joe Brower
Typical media bias.

Hope the death penalty is carried out quickly in Kansas.
4 posted on 07/16/2002 6:11:46 AM PDT by Maryland Man
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To: Maryland Man
This isnt a big story to the media. These types of crimes are all too common.
5 posted on 07/16/2002 6:15:50 AM PDT by Jon Geb
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To: Joe Brower
The two were not charged with a hate crime because Kansas does not have any hate-crime laws on the books. You can't charge them with violating a law that doesn't exist.
6 posted on 07/16/2002 6:17:44 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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BTTT
7 posted on 07/16/2002 6:25:45 AM PDT by Movemout
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Bump for ABC, NBC, CNN & CBS to notice and mention this hate crime. Ya right.
8 posted on 07/16/2002 6:35:41 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: Non-Sequitur
Think federal.....
9 posted on 07/16/2002 6:42:20 AM PDT by SW6906
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To: Joe Brower
"Given that the Carr brothers face the death penalty, this is a moot point, but Mrs. Foulston has made no attempt to apply these provisions. Mrs. Foulston knows some whites are pushing for a hate crimes investigation, and wants to keep the proceedings secret. She moved to close the court for the preliminary hearings, saying "we'd have to let the Aryan Nations come in here if they decided they had an interest." At one hearing, reporters heard one of Mrs. Foulston's aides tell the judge that the press are "interlopers," and the public has no "substantial interest" in the case. Fortunately, Judge Clark recognizes the public's right to observe the proceedings, and opened them to the public. He did, however, agree to Mrs. Foulston's motion for a gag order on all lawyers, investigators and witnesses. The order also prevents release of many records that normally would be public, including the EMS records, the reports on Jonathan Carr's mental competence, and records of police interviews. Mrs. Foulston says secrecy is necessary to ensure the Carrs get a fair trial, but what is in notes of police interviews, for example, that is so inflammatory it could prejudice the public? Evidence of racial hatred, perhaps?"

The law leans over so far backwards with the discreation of Judges, lawyers (DA's) and juries as to fail to remember the victims and the horrors, cruelty, and terrorizing extent of their deaths. All in the name of justice.

The death penalty or life without parole is the just penalty to impose on the Carr's.

10 posted on 07/16/2002 7:03:32 AM PDT by geologist
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To: SW6906
I don't want this in federal court. I want it tried here, in Kansas. I want them convicted here, condemned to death here, and sent on the road to El Dorado and left there until they take them over to Lansing and pump them full of happy juice. I don't want the feds involved in any way, shape, or form.
11 posted on 07/16/2002 7:05:55 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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Hate crimes statutes are un-Constitutional.

The federal and state governments have no authority to enforce criminal proceedings against a person because of what they think; our governments only have authority to enforce criminal proceedings against a person's actions which the people, through their duly elected representatives sitting in legislative bodies, have deemed criminal.

Murder is murder; the motive may be used as evidence, but the motive is not indictable as a crime.

12 posted on 07/16/2002 7:09:25 AM PDT by First_Salute
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>>the media liberal believes that white Americans are racist, homophobic and prone random outbreaks of violence.<<

They don't actually believe this.

But it's kind of you to excuse them by thinking they do.

13 posted on 07/16/2002 7:14:14 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: First_Salute
The death penalty is unconstitutional, too. At least for these guys it is.

They're retarded . . . Or they were denied admission to the University of Kansas because of their race. Their lawyers are still trying to figure out which is the case (or both).

/sarcasm off/

14 posted on 07/16/2002 7:27:26 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: First_Salute
Hate crimes statutes are un-Constitutional.

I agree. It is solely on the basis of their actual crimes of unlawful entry, rape, robbery and cold-blooded murder that these two scumbags need to be killed, and the sooner the better.


15 posted on 07/16/2002 7:42:15 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: Joe Brower
If your guns are ever taken away this will in all likelihood happen to you and your loved ones.
16 posted on 07/16/2002 7:48:30 AM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: Joe Brower
Archived Wichita Murders Posts

Killing Suspect Just Out of Jail - 01/01/2001

Scott McConnell: "Unfit to Print" - 01/10/2001

THE WICHITA HORROR - 01/13/2001

DA, Public Interest Clash Over Records (Wichita multiple murder) - 01/13/2001

Court seals case files in Wichita quadruple homicides - 01/14/2001

Lawyer asks to close pretrial proceedings (Update on The Wichita Horror) - 01/17/2001

Lawyers brawl over records (Wichita Horror/Quadruple Homicide) - 01/27/2001

BLOODY KANSAS: HATE CRIMES IN WICHITA? - 02/12/2001

Hate Crimes: A One-Way Street? - 03/05/2001

Carrs (Wichita Horror) to have joint preliminary hearing - 04/14/2001


17 posted on 07/16/2002 8:27:24 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: KS Flyover
A bump to the top, and a plea to read ALL THE DETAILS, to anyne who does not think this is a hate crime.

What is the background of this Foulston woman? She needs to lose her job. She is an idiot.
18 posted on 10/08/2002 7:23:59 PM PDT by Palladin
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Thanks for keeping this in front of people. It is simply one more example of the reality we are not permitted to speak of.
19 posted on 10/08/2002 7:30:04 PM PDT by neutrino
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If reading the details of this case don't make you puke until you can't take the pain anymore, you're stone. Even the damn dog...I would really enjoy pulling the switch on these two depraved bastards.



20 posted on 10/08/2002 7:31:24 PM PDT by who knows what evil?
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