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Pentagon Paints Picture of Menacing China (Drudge Siren is on)
reuters ^ | 7/12/2002 | Jim Wolf

Posted on 07/12/2002 2:02:14 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

Pentagon Paints Picture of Menacing China

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Defense Department has concluded that China is honing forces aimed at bringing Taiwan to its knees, if that is what is needed to unite it with the mainland, while keeping U.S. aircraft carriers at bay, Pentagon ( news - web sites) officials said Friday.

The assessment is detailed in a report to Congress on Chinese military power due for release late Friday. It represents the first such comprehensive U.S. look at the issue since President Bush ( news - web sites) took power in January last year.

"The report is factual and sober," said Navy Lt. Cmdr. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman.

Detailing what the survey calls Beijing's coercive approach, officials said China was on track to deploying 600 ballistic missiles opposite Taiwan by 2005.

Growing at a rate of 50 per year in recent years, these missiles appeared designed to sow fear and undermine Taiwan's will to fight if China opted to use force, said the officials, who spoke on condition they not be named.

Under President Bill Clinton, the Pentagon's annual assessments of Chinese military power emphasized China's inability to take and hold Taiwan by conventional force such as an amphibious invasion.

Bush's Pentagon, on the other hand, said China's submarine force gave it the potential to blockade Taiwan while using Russian-built "Sunburn" missiles deployed on Sovremmeny-class destroyers to deter any U.S. response.

In 1996, Clinton sent two U.S. carrier battle groups to the region to signal support for Taiwan after China fired missiles into the sea off Taiwan's two main ports. China regards Taiwan as a rogue province that must be united with the mainland, if necessary by force.

The first assessment of Chinese military power by Bush's Pentagon has been delayed repeatedly. It was initially due on March 1, 2001, before the Sept. 11 attacks sparked the U.S.-led war on terrorism in which China has cooperated.

Shirely Kan, an expert on China's military at the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, said Beijing's growing military clout posed challenges for the region, not just for Taiwan.

"The challenge posed by a rising China and its military modernization has not changed despite the antiterrorism war after 9/11," she said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; chinastuff
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To: Black Agnes
Someone PING JEFF HEAD!
21 posted on 07/12/2002 2:55:00 PM PDT by JimFreedom
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To: TLBSHOW
Of recent and related interest from the Jamestown Foundation, posted: with more detail on threats.
22 posted on 07/12/2002 2:55:09 PM PDT by flamefront
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To: pabianice
It is not "science fiction" at all.

1. The huge increase in missiles pointed at Taiwan is fact.

2. Their Russian-built destroyers and anti-ship missiles could take out a US carrier if China could identify the location of our carriers and were willing to lose their own ships in the process. The second part of that is very easy to imagine. As for finding our carriers, US carrier boosters decry that as nearly impossible, but I think that is a bold and reckless assumption.

3. Reasonable people can disagree about the threat presented to our carrier fleet, especially to its much ballyhooed mission of operating in littoral areas and projecting power ashore (which by necessity means getting fairly close to shore), but to call it "science fiction" is way too strong.

23 posted on 07/12/2002 3:07:55 PM PDT by Stingray51
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To: *China stuff
Index Bump
24 posted on 07/12/2002 3:17:18 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: pabianice
"This article is science fiction."

True (not that the Chicken Littles will catch on, though), but articles like this one will help make it politically impossible for Democrats to hold up so much of Taiwan's arms purchases from us.

25 posted on 07/12/2002 3:23:06 PM PDT by Southack
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To: DCBryan1; Poohbah
We have maybe 25 subs total in the Pacific.

We have places to watch besides the Formosa Straits, too. The Persian Gulf and the Med come to mind.

The ChiComs could throw close to 100 subs at us and Taiwan. We are BADLY outnumbered.
26 posted on 07/12/2002 3:23:48 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: TLBSHOW
"The challenge posed by a rising China and its military modernization has not changed despite the antiterrorism war after 9/11," she said.

It certainly didn't help when Clinton brought the Chinese military elite here to train with our military, nor did it help when he sold them our military technology.
If America feels a threat from Red China, remember the name Clinton and curse it.

27 posted on 07/12/2002 3:26:47 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Black Agnes
Why can't we flush some Al-Qaeda into their backyard to keep them occupied.

Actually, they have some seperatists in the Uighur region that may be affiliated with some of the Islamists like al-Qeada.
28 posted on 07/12/2002 3:34:56 PM PDT by BJClinton
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To: Dog
Just sent it to the distributors. Already approved a proof of the Adobe eBook version so it will probably be on Amazon and other places first.

The Trade Paperback printed version will get proofed next week and then go. Probably a couple of more weeks on that.

As they become available, I will post threads here and updates on the main site for the series.

Latest thread announcing the completion and submission of Volume Two is HERE

29 posted on 07/12/2002 3:48:50 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: JimFreedom
Black Agnes already did. REPLIED HERE.
30 posted on 07/12/2002 3:51:58 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Let Japan re-arm!
31 posted on 07/12/2002 3:53:01 PM PDT by rohry
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To: rohry
>>Let Japan re-arm!

Which means let Japan get re-nuked...

32 posted on 07/12/2002 4:01:24 PM PDT by Lake
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To: rohry
They are pretty well armed, particularly Navy and Air Force. Their blue water navy (JMSDF) is aguably as good a destroyer fleet as exists on the planet.

My guess is they could produce nukes in short order if they felt they needed them.

33 posted on 07/12/2002 4:02:10 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Lake
Interesting comment out of the shute.
34 posted on 07/12/2002 4:02:59 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
>>Interesting comment out of the shute.

Seriously. If Japan goes militaristic again, China will feel the real threat. Chinese hate Japanese so much that everyone is willing to join th army to fight Japanese. You can't imagine how strong the anti-Japanese sentiment is among Chinese.

35 posted on 07/12/2002 4:15:23 PM PDT by Lake
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To: Lake
I do know. Many still remember or are aware of Japanese occupation in WWII and the rape of Nanjing.

I write of it extensively in book two of my series.

You response makes it clear that I am probably not far off the mark when I also write of what happens should Japan fall.

36 posted on 07/12/2002 4:21:35 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Lake
You can't imagine how strong the anti-Japanese sentiment is among Chinese.

I can't imagine why....

37 posted on 07/12/2002 4:26:50 PM PDT by RoughDobermann
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To: RoughDobermann
>>I can't imagine why....

Tokyo court rejects compensation demand by Chinese massacre survivors

38 posted on 07/12/2002 4:39:32 PM PDT by Lake
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To: Lake
Seriously. If Japan goes militaristic again, China will feel the real threat. Chinese hate Japanese so much that everyone is willing to join th army to fight Japanese. You can't imagine how strong the anti-Japanese sentiment is among Chinese.

Seriously, your boys in Zhongnanhai are doing everything they can to make Japan "go militaristic" again. Japan will not sit idly by and let China become hegemon of Asia. And Japan's beaten China more times than any other country in recent times. So be careful what you ChiComs wish for---you just might get it.

39 posted on 07/12/2002 4:43:54 PM PDT by Map Kernow
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To: TLBSHOW
"Drudge says they are aiming at Japan too!"

With "REMEMBER NANKING!" painted on each warhead.

40 posted on 07/12/2002 5:39:31 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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