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Environmentalist slams 'lunatic fringe'
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, July 12, 2002 | By J. Zane Walley

Posted on 07/12/2002 1:14:54 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Jan Michael Jacobson, an environmentalist and Everglades expert who is part of a battle against the government's habitat policies in South Florida, claims the leadership of the environmental movement has betrayed both its core constituency and the U.S. Constitution.

In an exclusive interview with WND, Jacobson, the founder and director of the Everglades Institute, described himself as "something of a constitutionalist."

He was asked his views on the environmentalist movement and its impact on America and the Constitution.

"The Greeks dreamed of creating a society their philosophers called 'the shining city on a hill,'" he explained. "Our Founding Fathers believed in ownership and protection of private property, and that sovereignty by grace of God resides in the individual. From those beliefs the framers of our Constitution created a system of government which far exceeded the Greek dream of 'the shining city on a hill.' Unfortunately, the environmental leaders are what could be described as hard-core socialist psychotics. They are the lunatic fringes of socialism, and they are killing the American dream.

"Enviros play a very dirty game. Theirs is the politics of personal destruction on a major scale. Do I think the members of most 'environmental' groups support this? No. I think that if the average citizens who belong to one of these organizations understood the group's true agenda, they would be outraged. But they haven't watched their leaders. Where you don't have checks and balances you have abuses. There is no question that the environmental movement has discredited itself and in so doing has done a grave disservice to the country."

Jacobson sees no contradiction between environmentalism and private-property rights.

"There should never have been an argument between the environmental movement and the private landowner," he said. "The Enviros' agenda is to destroy private land ownership. If America is to survive and prosper as intended by the Founding Fathers, her individual citizens must be allowed to own property.

"The media compete for readers or viewers and a crisis brings in readers and viewers. Therefore, they keep looking for a crisis. However, in the natural world, things proceed at the speed of mammalian evolution. There are no great instant crises in the biological world, but if the media require one and someone is willing to pay, there will be one."

The Everglades expert demonstrated his point with an example from the Antarctic.

"People used to bleep hideously that if you wipe out any single species, even impact the population, the whole world would be destroyed because the whole world is linked together.

"Do you know it's possible that the fluttering of a butterfly in Africa could start a wind circulation that could build into a hurricane? Well, it's possible. It's also possible pigs will fly and the price of bacon will be sky-high. But do you really want to count on it?

"Consider this scenario: The population of great whales in the Antarctic is reduced to somewhere between slim and none. The single biggest appetite for krill (mini-shrimp) that ever existed was gone. The krill are now swarming the oceans. Nothing happened in the Antarctic – the sky didn't fall, the ice cap didn't melt, and no population crashed except the whales. There was not the slightest detectable change except the whales were not around. In due course, when we quit sticking sharp explosive charges into them, they came back, too. So the ecology turns out to be profoundly resilient."

Jacobson sees the original environmentalism movement as a worthy cause that went bad due to its leaders' desire for power.

"Environmentalism was hijacked," he said. "The original people in the movement could arguably claim to be the largest grass-roots movement in America, and one of the greatest. People joined together to do good. Then they made a crucial and critical mistake: They gave power – unchecked power – to their leaders.

"We allow the Enviros to write critical legislation. We elected many to the House and Senate who just blindly accepted that what the Enviros were doing was good. Now we're unwilling to examine what the Enviros say and do to see if it is flawed.

"It is one thing for the Enviros to say, 'We are going to do good,' but if what they do creates profoundly negative impacts on the habitat and turns out to be unconstitutional, it is proof that the power handed to their leaders has corrupted them.

"Right now, taxpayers are paying for 'Green Bureau-babble,' which equates to power. The people who come up with these ideas are power perverts. They don't want to stand for election. They want the power without the responsibility. These people are a perversion of the republic."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: ecobureaubabble; ecoperversion; ecopowerperverts; enviralists; envirallunatics; environment; lunaticenvirals
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Friday, July 12, 2002

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1 posted on 07/12/2002 1:14:54 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Good article! Another example of an organization (like some unions) that was relevant at the start, but has moved on to an agenda very unlike that which helped found it.
2 posted on 07/12/2002 2:47:57 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow
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To: JohnHuang2
My local garbage pick-up service frequently refuses items I leave on the curb. This week it was wallboard scraps (gypsum) and insulation scraps.

Another week it was almost empty cans of paint thinner and paint.

I now have this accumulating pile of "unacceptable trash" and I'm trying to figure out what I'm supposed to do about this.

I know for a fact that there is a sizable portion of the population who have come up with a solution. They either throw it out of the car on a back road, dump it down the drain, or dump it on the ground.

Another environmental policy gone haywire.

3 posted on 07/12/2002 3:06:22 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: The Raven
The enviros solution to this pickup in our (and I suspect many areas) is "hazardous waste day".

For those who haven't experienced this joyful day, let me explain the procedure.

Once a year you load up your vehicle with all the stuff the garbage people won't pick up. Then you drive a long way to a nasty industrial section of a nasty town you would never have visited for any reason. You keep your air conditioner on so you don't have to smell the stench.

Then you wait in a line of cars. And wait. And wait. I hope you didn't have any plans that day because we are talking hours here.

Then they look through your car at each station and take the relevant hazardous stuff out of your vehicle.

And the line continues. And you wait. And you wait.....

Eventually you get done woondering how much air pollution you caused while you waited in line for hours!
4 posted on 07/12/2002 3:24:01 AM PDT by cgbg
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To: cgbg
"Green Bureau-babble" bump.

I'm glad I live in a place that takes anything from the curb! That doesn't sound like much fun.

5 posted on 07/12/2002 3:37:04 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: The Raven
My local garbage pick-up service frequently refuses items I leave on the curb. This week it was wallboard scraps (gypsum) and insulation scraps.

Another week it was almost empty cans of paint thinner and paint.

I now have this accumulating pile of "unacceptable trash" and I'm trying to figure out what I'm supposed to do about this.

Oh, there's an easy two-step process for that:

1. Find out what bureaucratic idiot is most responsible for the Catch-22 (city commissioner, city council, waste management head honcho, etc.).

2. Drop it off on their porch at 3am some night along with a note explaining why.

6 posted on 07/12/2002 3:37:17 AM PDT by Dan Day
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To: *Enviralists; editor-surveyor
Index Bump and fyi
7 posted on 07/12/2002 6:54:29 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: JohnHuang2
BTTT for later reading.
8 posted on 07/12/2002 7:00:05 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: Free the USA
Also, note, as some people in power are working to protect rural communities, private property and rural land owners:

Gov Bush Awards Rural Devel Grant to Regional Economic Devel Organization
[How Jeb Helps Rural FL]

9 posted on 07/12/2002 7:39:03 AM PDT by summer
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To: JohnHuang2
JH2, I clicked the link in thie article about this person,
but it went nowhere. If you could repost it, I would like
to read it to see what he has to say. Thanks! :)
10 posted on 07/12/2002 7:42:07 AM PDT by summer
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To: JohnHuang2
JH2, never mind, I found it in the source link, and the article is HERE.
11 posted on 07/12/2002 7:44:28 AM PDT by summer
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To: JohnHuang2
JH2, I am not an environmental expert, but all I can say is a somewhat different view than that in the article linked in my post #11 is presented HERE. This 2000 article sounds closer to what GW and Gov. Bush have been saying.
12 posted on 07/12/2002 7:57:00 AM PDT by summer
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To: summer
Thanks for the link, summer. I'll be checking it out.
13 posted on 07/12/2002 8:02:54 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: summer
Then why'd Jeb sign this one?

Commissioners to take final look at rural fringe growth plan

'Sending areas'...'Receiving areas'...This junk is *straight* from Agenda 21
14 posted on 07/12/2002 8:03:05 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: JohnHuang2
"the environmental leaders are what could be described as hard-core socialist psychotics"

Good description. But I would suggest that private land ownership is threatened by more than environmentalists. Bureaucracies abound and what was once considered to be the substance of the American dream available to anyone has now become an advanced obstacle course of hoops and red tape and taxes and excessive regulation that is available to some, attainable by less and impossible for many.

15 posted on 07/12/2002 8:08:13 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Black Agnes
Again, you always ignore my posts. I spent hours learning this about you one day -- as you well know.

I posted link after link after link to laws signed by Gov Bush to help protect private property owners.

Your response to my dozen plus posts on that thread? NOTHING. SILENCE. NO POST BACK AT ALL.

I can't "debate" with you Black Agnes, because here's how a debate with you goes: you throw out your accusations against Gov. Bush, whether false or not, and then, when my facts hit you in the face, you run away in silnce.

So, no thanks. If you like, link on this thread to the other thread I posted dozen of posts to you on, so everyone can see how you "debate."
16 posted on 07/12/2002 8:09:27 AM PDT by summer
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To: Black Agnes
Re your post #14 - see my post #9. That's all I have the time and patience for; sorry.
17 posted on 07/12/2002 8:10:46 AM PDT by summer
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To: The Raven
"I'm trying to figure out what I'm supposed to do about this."

Well, I would suggest buying a piece of wasteland (no pun intended) and opening a landfill, but then you would be doing 2 of the things they hate most...polluting AND making money and you would, of course, have to be stopped at all cost, so the land wouldn't really be yours.

18 posted on 07/12/2002 8:12:56 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks, JH2. I wish I could tell you: "I am an expert in all environmental matters and know exactly what is best for FL" but the truth is I am not; I am just an average voter, somewhere in the middle who leans right on some issues. And, this Everglades issue, I think, is getting a really bad rap from World Net Daily. I wish I could get someone from FL who knows more about it than I do to write something more factual ini response. Thanks for your post. :)
19 posted on 07/12/2002 8:13:07 AM PDT by summer
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To: Dan Day
"Drop it off on their porch at 3am some night along with a note explaining why"

LOL! I like it.

20 posted on 07/12/2002 8:14:44 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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