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To: Dimensio
Now it is YOU who ignore the accepted practices of science. You can both observe and repeat a test of gravity. You can do neither with evolution.

I tire of this thread. It is a never ending battle here.
50 posted on 07/11/2002 10:40:34 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants
You can both observe and repeat a test of gravity.

And no matter how often you test the theory of gravity and acheive results within the predictions of the theory you still have not "proven" the theory.
52 posted on 07/11/2002 10:41:43 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: Blood of Tyrants
" I tire of this thread. It is a never ending battle here."

It is always interesting to read these exchanges because the plain truth is neither side has the "goods" to make their case. Both arguments rest on a foundation of "faith," one on a divine creator, the other on the perverse idea that nature could self-assemble unimaginably complex systems with no external intervention.

Given the way that science has had to retract previous theories in so many situations, I find it odd that "evolutionists" maintain such passion for a theory that seems to have many weak reeds. Einstein was SURE that God wouldn't play dice with the universe, but the accepted theory of quantum mechanics says that He does. It might have been considered supernatural at one time to suggest that there was "invisible matter" or "energy in a vacuum" but now modern day physicists have concluded there is. Those who reject ID or creationism out-of-hand represent the arrogant side of science. Of course, the arrogant side of creationism is rejecting the evolutionary mechanisms out-of-hand as though an Intelligent Designer would not have thought to devise such an efficient mechanism to create the species (a designer of limited intelligence?).

The good thing is that the questions are being asked, theories are being challenged and the search for understanding our world continues.

93 posted on 07/11/2002 11:18:16 AM PDT by NilesJo
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To: Blood of Tyrants
You can both observe and repeat a test of gravity. You can do neither with evolution.

Sometimes science uses other methods of deducing its "truths". Helium was discovered on the sun before it was found on earth.

DNA is beginning to reveal much information about species and deductions based on it will be used to refine hypotheses on evolution. Darwin thought humans and apes shared a common ancestry, then lo and behold, it turns out we share 98% of our DNA with chimps. If Darwins notions were so screwy, you wouldn't assume that result.

147 posted on 07/11/2002 12:49:15 PM PDT by laredo44
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To: Blood of Tyrants
There is skullduggery afoot here!
 
 
 
 

To the tune of War: what is it good for?)

Opposable thumbs: what are they good for?

Since the Evos like to claim that we DIDN'T 'descend' (ascend then?) from APES, but from a 'common' ancestor, my two-fold Question is this:

Did our 'ancestors' have opposable thumbs on their FEET and we Humans DEVOLVED them, or,

did our 'ancestors' NOT have opposable thumbs on their FEET and the ape line EVOLVED them?



339 posted on 07/11/2002 3:54:02 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Now it is YOU who ignore the accepted practices of science. You can both observe and repeat a test of gravity. You can do neither with evolution.

You can observe and repeat a test of evolution with a bacterial culture and a couple of antibiotics. You can't directly observe and test the entire evolutionary line of humanity, but then, you can't observe and test gravity outside the solar system either. Yet we do believe it operates on the rest of the universe as well.

511 posted on 07/12/2002 12:06:37 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Now it is YOU who ignore the accepted practices of science. You can both observe and repeat a test of gravity. You can do neither with evolution.

Yes, you can.

The problem is that you won't live long enough to observe the final results. This is what makes it so difficult for some people to comprehend slow processes.

1,077 posted on 07/20/2002 5:22:28 PM PDT by reg45
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