Expert: Body dumped after defendant fell under suspicion (SO WHO DUMPED DANIELLE VAN DAM'S BODY??)

Union Trib ^ | July 11, 2002 | Steve Perez/Greg Magnus

[FresnoDA]

I LOVE THIS RENDITION OF THE CHORUS.....

Chorus

And we're really running out of time,
The bugs are what it's all about...
If I have to give SWINGING up.... then I'll pout....

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

My feeble attempt. The format of the song just seemed so right. :)

To the tune of “Big Girls Don’t Cry” – Four Seasons


Big bugs don't lie
Big bugs don't lie

Bi-ig bugs do-on't lie-yi-yi (they don't lie)
Bi-ig bugs do-on't lie-yi-yi (who said they don't lie?)
Du-u-sek said they lie-yi-yi (my oh my)
Du-u-sek said they lie (I wonder why)

(Silly boy) told bug man he just might be wrong
(Silly boy) hoped that he would go along
(Silly boy) then he said to Jeff’s surprise
Big bugs don't lie

Bi-ig bugs do-on't lie-yi-yi (they don't lie)
Bi-ig bugs do-on't lie-yi-yi (yes sir, they don't lie?)
May-y-be truth is cru-u-u-el (truth is cruel)
Bay-y-be Jeff’s a fool (He’s such a fool)

(Silly Jeff) Shame on you, the jury said
(Silly Jeff) Shame on you, you lost your head
(Silly Jeff) Shame on you, Dave should not fry
Big bugs don’t lie

Bi-ig bugs do-on't lie-yi-yi (they don't lie)
Bi-ig bugs do-on't lie-yi-yi (not just an alibi)
Big bugs don’t lie
Big bugs don’t lie
Big bugs don’t lie
Big bugs don’t lie

[pyx]

He's allowing him in, but if he messes up one more time, he's banned from the whole building.

I have to wonder if Damon won't try to attack David Alan Westerfield for two reasons.

1.)Because Damon's public relations handlers have told him its good for his future.

2.)It shifts the focus AWAY from Damon as being a suspect.

3.)Its make people forget how Damon has behaved up to this point.

4.)It attempts to normalize his grieving process.

My guess is that there will be a physical attack on David Alan Westerfield within moments of Damon being admitted to court. Judge Mudd is being suckered. Damon has a computer programming background and he thinks he has all the bases covered. He understands contingencies.

[spectre]

Yes, I've e-mailed them. I'm sure they trashed it.

They don't care if we like her or not, as long as we watch...and unfortunaely, this is the only way to get the trial, for me.

I suppose NOT mentioning CTV at all might help. Or saying we don't watch Nancy Grace, might help. She makes my stomach churn.

She's a Clinton ho anyway...and that's the truth.

sw

[Politicalmom]

I suggest you ask before you make comments like that. I happen to believe the Smart family didn't have anything to do with their daughter's disappearance, and I am willing to bet that MANY of the people who agree that Westerfield is not guilty agree with me.

You choose to ignore neglectful parents, who bring strangers into their home, that's fine. I choose not to make judgements based on emotion.

[mommya]

So did you all catch that Nancy DisGrace will be doing a chat this afternoon - 12:30 eastern time I believe.

[Spunky]

Just heard. Mrs. Condit was just given the go ahead to file her Ten Million Law Suit against the Enquirer.

[MizSterious]

About that phone call Feldman was asking about today--KitKat on Jams' remembered this portion of the trial testimony:

19 Q. DID THEY ASK TO PUT A TAP ON YOUR PHONE, TRACE YOUR

20 PHONE CALLS?

21 A. NOT THAT I RECALL.

------------------------LATER

3852
1 Q. DO YOU RECALL AT SOME POINT IN TIME, AT LEAST

2 UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE HAD BEEN SOME FORM OF EITHER PHONE

3 TRAP, PHONE TRACE OR PHONE TAPS ON YOUR TELEPHONES?

4 A. NO.

5 Q. DIRECTING YOUR ATTENTION TO APPROXIMATELY THE 16TH

6 OF FEBRUARY 2002, DO YOU RECALL GETTING A TELEPHONE CALL, A

7 MESSAGE CONCERNING YOUR DAUGHTER?

8 MR. DUSEK: OBJECTION, HEARSAY, BEYOND THE SCOPE, THIRD

9 PARTY.

10 THE COURT: COUNSEL, I'LL HEAR YOU AT SIDEBAR.

11

12

13 (PROCEEDINGS NOT PART OF PUBLIC RECORD.)
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(6-6, morning pt. 2)

Ok, folks, now what do you think this might have been about?

[MizSterious]

Songwriters--keep 'em coming. I have a nice little file building up. Great work from everyone! (SF, don't sell yerself short! It was great!)

[spectre]

Wow...the Psychologist there is saying that Damon is experiencing "Lee Harvey Oswald" behavior and should be banned from the courtroom!

The immature, funny face-making, Nancy Grace, is saying "Oh, wayyyy over the toppp on the BS O'meter"...to the shrink!

No one will agree with Nancy..:~)

sw

[UCANSEE2]

SO who wore red/orange the night Danielle went missing?

OR who wore red/orange when they dumped the body on or about FEb 16th? If that is what happened.

[mommya]

Miz - I didn't quite catch what all that stuff was about - was Feldman implying that he does not have access to that (the phone tap) but knows it exists? I did catch that there were some documents - warrants? - that would be released at noon - 5 maybe - but that a 6th was still up in the air somehow? What did you make of all that?

[FresnoDA]

I LUV BIG BUGSSS!!! BIG BUMP!!!

[MizSterious]

Pyx, my mind sees something a little more devious than that. If he kills Westerfield (and throw in the defense team for good measure), he'll probably get a light sentence, because he's a "grieving father." If people start looking at Damon too closely, though, he could get a much longer sentence if he did what I think he did. Just my opinion, folks, one to which I'm entitled, and not to be construed as fact.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

There is a tendency on FR to ignore the simple in favor of the convoluted.

If you think there is something simple about any of this case, you are different indeed.

Furthermore.......ignoring the simple in this case and opting for the convoluted appears to be precisely what LE did.

Let's see. We have a house full of pot-smoking, bar-hopping, swinging perverts practicing their craft in the same home where children are present versus a man who apparently first drew suspicion because of the mere fact he had been gone from the neighborhood at a specific time.

Yep.......makes sense to me. That's a great example of going for the simple and ignoring the convoluted, huh?

[ItsOurTimeNow]

Shouldn't the psychologist have said "Jack Ruby" behavior?

[paul51]

Expert: Body dumped after defendant fell under suspicion

This is a misleading interpretation of the testimony. As was determined on cross, this conclusion was based on the life cycle evaluation of the flies which was subject to other factors, not the least of which is climate. It was also established that although the time frame between the remains being dumped and found would not be shorter, with high probability, it could indeed be longer.

[Eva]

I just thought of something that could be the source of the fibers. Didn't Brenda drive the blue van to Dad's that night? Maybe the blue fibers came off her clothes, as well as Danielle's hairs and the red fibers while she was dancing with Westerfield.

[GoldenBear]

I think someone called and said they had kidnapped the little girl and the police caught the call on a phone tap. Defense wanted to use the call to point the finger at someone else. But the call falls within hearsay and did not fall with an exception.

[Spunky]

Nancy is having a real fit that Judge Mudd had kicked Westerfield out of the court in the first place. She says: "Just for staring." "I would stare to at someone who had killed my child."

That's the problem with so many people they believe guilty until proven innocent. Instead of INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

Now I know where she is coming from. Just said she wishes she had stayed in the courtroom during the trial of the person who murdered her fiance. (Does anyone know the details of this)