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Analyst Warns of Cultural Trend Toward Pedophilia
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 7/11/02 | Lawrence Morahan

Posted on 07/11/2002 3:23:12 AM PDT by kattracks

Washington (CNSNews.com) - A trend toward normalizing pedophilia is the latest manifestation of a dangerous understanding of human sexuality that has come to be more widely held over the last 30 years, a leading analyst of cultural trends said Wednesday.

To reverse the trend, which poses a serious challenge to contemporary cultural conservatism, Americans must return to conservative sexual mores, Carson Holloway, a political science professor at the University of Nebraska, said at a symposium entitled "From Playboy to Pedophilia: How Adult Sexual Liberation Leads to Children's Sexual Exploitation," hosted by the Family Research Council.

In a relatively short time, American has gone from a society that Alexis de Tocqueville, speaking 150 years ago, said observed stricter sexual standards than any other country, to one in which casual sex is depicted with approval in prime time television.

A great gulf now separates pre-1960s Tocquevillian America from the present sexually liberationist ethos, Holloway said.

The change in sexual thinking and behavior was brought about by sexual liberationists' rhetorical emphasis on the autonomy of "consenting adults," and the triumph of the notion that anything sexual is morally permissible so long as it takes place between consenting adults, Holloway said.

By insisting that there can be nothing objectionable about any sexual act that takes place between consenting adults, sexual liberationists deny there is a moral nature of sex, he said.

Similarly, the defense of pedophilia is repeatedly made on the basis that relations can be voluntary and that the young, who are more worldly-wise than previous generations, can in some cases be the instigators of sexual activity with adults, Holloway said.

These social and cultural trends also are reflected in landmark legal decisions, he said.

In April, the Supreme Court struck down a law that prohibited the distribution and possession of virtual child pornography that appears to depict real children.

"Reading the court's opinion, I was struck by the extent to which the members of the majority at least don't seem to live in the same moral universe as many of the rest of us," Holloway said.

"We learn, for example, there's a distinction between the indecent and the obscene, that pornography is not necessarily obscene and indeed that child pornography is not necessarily obscenity," he added.

With its decision, the court put materials that foster pedophile fantasies in the realm of constitutionally protected speech, Holloway noted.

The federal statute, which was enacted in 1996, had banned a range of techniques, including computer-generated images and the use of youthful-looking adults, which were designed to convey the impression of minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct.

The court ruled, however, that non-obscene child pornography can be banned if it's produced using real children. Such material, the court holds, does not have constitutional protection because of the state's compelling interest in preventing the harm to children caused by their sexual exploitation, Holloway said.

"Thus the court seems to share the conventional view that the introduction of minors to sexual intercourse is wrong or abusive," Holloway said.

The justices also made it almost impossible to punish anything as obscenity, Holloway noted. The court ruled that the federal statute prohibiting virtual child pornography didn't take into account that for something to be considered obscene, it has to appeal primarily to the prurient interest, violate community standards, and be void of social, scientific, political or cultural value.

"What that comes down to is, if anything has the slightest sliver of culturally or socially redeeming value, then it can't be judged obscene, even if it's pure pornography from start to finish. And I think that's effectively emasculating any kind of laws against obscenity," Holloway said.

"It seems to me that any pornographic movie in which there's even one line of conversation could be redeemed on that basis," he added.


The cultural reaction to the behavior of President Clinton, who had sex with White House intern Monica Lewinsky, also demonstrated a change in Americans' attitudes toward sex, and a trend towards more promiscuous sexual activity among young people, analysts at the seminar noted.

"Clearly Americans disapproved of what Bill Clinton had done, but they didn't disapprove of it enough to want to get rid of him," Holloway said, in response to questions.

People objected to Clinton's lying and tampering with the administration of justice, but not to his sexual behavior, he said.

Holloway said there was a connection between the legitimization of homosexuality and the acceptance of President Clinton's sexual behavior. Interviews with "the man on the street" revealed that people believed Clinton did "what any man would have done."

"Well, if that's your moral attitude toward sex, then there's nothing wrong with anything any homosexual does either. It's hard to see a principled objection to what homosexuals do if what Bill Clinton does is just okay," he said.

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To: GreenEggsHam; Black Agnes
You should really ping someone when you are talking about them.

You're funny. When we challenge YOU to provide evidence, you throw out the newbie label. You have not provided anything to support your claim that growth hormone causes early puberty. I have provided several reference that indicate there is no study, no data, nothing. Just a bunch of talking heads expounding a hypothesis. So, the next logical question, how many times have you been a newbie here?
101 posted on 07/11/2002 2:07:33 PM PDT by WIMom
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To: WIMom; Black Agnes
I don't know how to ping someone or what that really means. I've seen people post "ping" a lot but I don't know what that means. Also trying to figure out how you do that answer/reply thing with the italics, so my posts don't come out so ugly with all the "+++++" symbols.

I didn't throw out the newbie label when you challenged me for evidence. I said I didn't have the evidence and told you what I remembered (we've been over this). I threw out the newbie label because I was being up front about the fact that I don't exactly know all the "rules" around here and have been getting comments that imply that I should justify myself to the board and get my "conservative" girl-scout badge before my views are considered valid or that maybe I don't belong here (and frankly speaking, I'm beginning to think maybe I don't! I could copy posts of mine that you might consider qualifies as being in line with *your* ideology, and I considered it before deciding 'WTF? I don't need to defend myself to this person!') Fact of the matter is I don't agree with YOU so you're trying to make an issue out of ME rather than simply stick to the issue at hand. I pulled a quote out of the same article you did that supports my claim. It's easy to dismiss any study as "talking heads expounding a hypothesis". I could easily dismiss the links you posted as the same. Yesterday is the first time I have posted to Free Republic. And it certainly has been an experience. You people need to chill, imho!
102 posted on 07/11/2002 2:17:05 PM PDT by GreenEggsHam
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To: GreenEggsHam
Actually, if it is your second day, you need to chill. Sheesh, get a grip. I proved my point, there is NO study that proves your point.

And from your own source: Consumer Concerns About Hormones in Food

However, exposure to higher than natural levels of steroid hormones through hormone-treated meat or poultry has never been documented. Large epidemiological studies have not been done to see whether or not early puberty in developing girls is associated with having eaten growth hormone-treated foods.

103 posted on 07/11/2002 2:33:23 PM PDT by WIMom
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To: WIMom; Black Agnes
Thought I'd share some of the FreeRepublic guidelines since I've just read them. Perhaps a brushup is in order:

Do keep it clean - A bruise or two between Freepers is tolerable, but refrain from abusive attacks, engaging in senseless flame wars...it's hard to be a family site, but that's what we aim for when at all possible.

Do "take it to the Alley" - The Alley is a public chat room. A link to it is provided on the latest posts page. Invite people there if you want to talk things over or settle a score, so to speak, off site.

Don't jump threads - If you get involved in an argument in one thread, it's considered poor manners to restart the previous argument in the middle of an unrelated thread.


104 posted on 07/11/2002 2:38:31 PM PDT by GreenEggsHam
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To: WIMom
So, if you don't mind sharing, since it didn't mention it in the guidelines, what's a "ping"? And how do you quote someone in italics so their text is differentiated from your reply?
105 posted on 07/11/2002 2:40:23 PM PDT by GreenEggsHam
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To: GreenEggsHam; Black Agnes
hahahahahahaha! You crack me up. This is bad? bwahahahahahahahahahaha! hahahaha! Thanks, best laugh I had all day. I'm done with you. goodbye.
106 posted on 07/11/2002 2:42:24 PM PDT by WIMom
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To: GreenEggsHam
A ping is like a phone call to another poster. It draws the attention of another poster to the thread. To change the lettering style, you need to know html. You can get a book on html at the bookstore.
107 posted on 07/11/2002 2:43:18 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: GreenEggsHam
Welcome, Greeneggsham ;-)
108 posted on 07/11/2002 2:43:20 PM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: Don Myers
Thanks
109 posted on 07/11/2002 2:44:52 PM PDT by GreenEggsHam
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To: GreenEggsHam
<I> Italics on
</I> Italics off
Type their screen name in the to box followed by a semi-colon.
GreenEggsHam;WIMom; or anyone else you want to flag to your post.
110 posted on 07/11/2002 2:46:48 PM PDT by WIMom
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To: Lazamataz
Death Penalty for all child pornographers.

Sounds good to me. Child molestation is a form of murder.

111 posted on 07/11/2002 3:14:19 PM PDT by PuNcH
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To: eno_
Legislating penalties for murder hasn't stopped murders from occuring. Should be eliminate those from the books?
112 posted on 07/11/2002 3:18:55 PM PDT by Frapster
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To: eno_
Legislating penalties for murder hasn't stopped murders from occuring. Should we eliminate those from the books?
113 posted on 07/11/2002 3:19:21 PM PDT by Frapster
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To: Lazamataz
"Face it, Kevin: You are America's Favorite Little Taliban.

Lol! And "Hi", laz.

114 posted on 07/11/2002 5:29:28 PM PDT by MonroeDNA
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To: GreenEggsHam
Welcome, newbie, member of one day.
115 posted on 07/11/2002 5:40:54 PM PDT by MonroeDNA
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To: kattracks
Bump for later
116 posted on 07/11/2002 5:45:53 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: WIMom
So, the next logical question, how many times have you been a newbie here?

Heee, he, he...watch him (her? likely "him") flame out spectacurally.

BTW, Love your posts, and good job with your squewering analysys!

117 posted on 07/11/2002 5:52:15 PM PDT by MonroeDNA
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To: MonroeDNA
Heh, thanks. I'm a geek by birth and education. I want facts and data, not touchy feely stuff. (I should have been born a guy, but God thought 4 boys in a family of 5 kids was enough)
118 posted on 07/11/2002 6:16:12 PM PDT by WIMom
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To: MonroeDNA
Thanks MonroeDNA!
119 posted on 07/11/2002 6:34:30 PM PDT by GreenEggsHam
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To: Frapster
Oh come on, a little rigor before we descend into pure emotion: Murder and child pornography severly affect the victims. Making child pornography is tantamount to child rape.

Making virtual child pronogrphy is like making a picture of rape. As ugly as it is, should that be illegal?

120 posted on 07/11/2002 7:09:09 PM PDT by eno_
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