Farrakhan: We Pray for Iraq to Defeat U.S.

NewsMax.com ^ | 7/09/02 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

[DonQ]

The agency quoted the black Muslim leader as saying "the Muslim American people are praying to the almighty God to grant victory to Iraq."

Considering that the US Govt has never put an official end-date to Desert Storm, does this sort of statement fit the description of "aid and comfort to the enemy"??

[ex-snook]

"The agency quoted the black Muslim leader as saying "the Muslim American people are praying to the almighty God to grant victory to Iraq." "

"AMERICAN PEOPLE"? Gimme a break. American people are for America first.

[Burr5]

Judge Andrew Napolitano was on FOX seconds ago explaining that this is NOT treason because of the 1st. Amendment. He claims physical assistance to "the enemy" is required. Reading your post, I'm not so sure he's clear on the standard.

[Burr5]

"....adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.." seems like the critical line. Calypso Louie is doing that IMO, but the argument will probably be about whether Iraq IS an enemy in the absence of a declaration of war. Hmmm.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Conducting Foreign Relations Without Authority: The Logan Act

Abstract: The Logan Act was intended to prohibit United States citizens without authority from interfering in relations between the United States and foreign governments. There appear to have been no prosecutions under the Act in its almost 200 year history. However, there have been a number of judicial references to the Act, and it is not uncommon for it to be used as a political weapon. Although attempts have been made to repeal the Act, it remains law and at least a potential sanction to be used against anyone who without authority interferes in the foreign relations of the United States.

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

With that statement,this man is now a SECURITY RISK!

[Illbay]

Do we HAVE to allow this guy to continue free like this? I mean, "First Amendment" and everything, but when do such words become "aid and comfort to the enemy"?

[Salman]

With that statement,this man is now a SECURITY RISK!

Not much of an issue since he doesn't have access to any sensitive information.

He's still a menace. Always was.

[SlightOfTongue]

Well, it's gonna be a close one. But I think we have the edge. (heh, heh)

[mc5cents]

Article III.

Section 3

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

What say ye? Treason? I say yea. I will volunteer to be the first witness. Anyone else?

[mc5cents]

P.S. That "or" in the section is very important. Take note.

[mafree]

When will Farrakhan pray that Saddam stop poisoning and starving the Iraqi people?

[tanka wasichu]

What say ye? Treason? I say yea. I will volunteer to be the first witness. Anyone else?

I'll back that play

[DonQ]

If you check the cases in the annotations to the USCA edition of the Constitution, for Art.III, sec.3, clause 1, you will see that (1) "the enemy" in that clause does not require a formal declaration of war, but it is sufficient if a foreign power (not necessarily recognized by the US govt as a bona fide govt of a bona fide country) is in "open hostility" with the US; there were scores of casualties from Desert Storm so the hostility seems plenty open to me; (2) the act of treason can be committed while the US citizen is abroad, far from any scene of battle, so it need not involve any sort of militaristic or violent act; (3) speechmaking on behalf of the enemy, even though done far outside the US, will qualify as an act of treason, as established in the cases of Axis Sally and Tokyo Rose (and in the UK in the case of Lord Haw-Haw).

Israel and England won't let Farrakhan in, are we obliged to let him back ??