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Farrakhan: We Pray for Iraq to Defeat U.S.
NewsMax.com ^ | 7/09/02 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 07/09/2002 1:09:47 PM PDT by kattracks

Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan says American Muslims are praying for an Iraqi victory in a war with the United States, according to Iraq's state-run media.

Farrakhan held meetings over the weekend in Baghdad with Iraqi officials on a "solidarity" trip billed as an effort to avoid a U.S. military campaign against dictator Saddam Hussein, United Press International and the Washington Times reported.

Farrakhan held talks with Islamic Affairs Minister Abdul Munem Saleh on "ways to confront the American threats against Iraq," Iraqi News Agency reported.

Saleh was quoted as urging a worldwide effort by Muslims to "expose the American and Zionist crimes toward the people of Iraq and Palestine."

The agency quoted the black Muslim leader as saying "the Muslim American people are praying to the almighty God to grant victory to Iraq."

A State Department official said he was aware of the news but was not prepared to comment.

'Not a Muslim Outfit'

One of America's leading Muslim organizations today denounced Farrakhan's comments as "outrageous."

"Of course, he does not represent our views or the views of American Muslims," Faiz Rehman, a spokesman for American Muslim Council, told CNSNews.com.

"The mainstream American Muslim community does not consider the Nation of Islam as part of the Muslim community. They claim they have the name of Islam attached to them, but they are not Muslims. Nation of Islam is not a Muslim outfit," Rehman said.

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To: kattracks
The agency quoted the black Muslim leader as saying "the Muslim American people are praying to the almighty God to grant victory to Iraq."

Considering that the US Govt has never put an official end-date to Desert Storm, does this sort of statement fit the description of "aid and comfort to the enemy"??

21 posted on 07/09/2002 2:21:54 PM PDT by DonQ
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To: kattracks
"The agency quoted the black Muslim leader as saying "the Muslim American people are praying to the almighty God to grant victory to Iraq." "

"AMERICAN PEOPLE"? Gimme a break. American people are for America first.

22 posted on 07/09/2002 2:22:25 PM PDT by ex-snook
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To: Paleo Conservative
Judge Andrew Napolitano was on FOX seconds ago explaining that this is NOT treason because of the 1st. Amendment. He claims physical assistance to "the enemy" is required. Reading your post, I'm not so sure he's clear on the standard.
23 posted on 07/09/2002 2:27:10 PM PDT by Burr5
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To: Burr5
"....adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.." seems like the critical line. Calypso Louie is doing that IMO, but the argument will probably be about whether Iraq IS an enemy in the absence of a declaration of war. Hmmm.
24 posted on 07/09/2002 2:29:48 PM PDT by Burr5
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To: Burr5
Conducting Foreign Relations Without Authority: The Logan Act

Abstract: The Logan Act was intended to prohibit United States citizens without authority from interfering in relations between the United States and foreign governments. There appear to have been no prosecutions under the Act in its almost 200 year history. However, there have been a number of judicial references to the Act, and it is not uncommon for it to be used as a political weapon. Although attempts have been made to repeal the Act, it remains law and at least a potential sanction to be used against anyone who without authority interferes in the foreign relations of the United States.

25 posted on 07/09/2002 2:44:34 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: kattracks
With that statement,this man is now a SECURITY RISK!
26 posted on 07/09/2002 2:49:37 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: kattracks
Do we HAVE to allow this guy to continue free like this? I mean, "First Amendment" and everything, but when do such words become "aid and comfort to the enemy"?
27 posted on 07/09/2002 2:59:48 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY
With that statement,this man is now a SECURITY RISK!

Not much of an issue since he doesn't have access to any sensitive information.

He's still a menace. Always was.

28 posted on 07/09/2002 3:59:31 PM PDT by Salman
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To: ex-snook
Well, it's gonna be a close one. But I think we have the edge. (heh, heh)
29 posted on 07/09/2002 4:09:24 PM PDT by SlightOfTongue
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To: Paleo Conservative
Article III.

Section 3

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

What say ye? Treason? I say yea. I will volunteer to be the first witness. Anyone else?

31 posted on 07/09/2002 5:50:41 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: mc5cents
P.S. That "or" in the section is very important. Take note.
32 posted on 07/09/2002 5:53:34 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: mhking
When will Farrakhan pray that Saddam stop poisoning and starving the Iraqi people?
33 posted on 07/09/2002 6:56:12 PM PDT by mafree
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To: mc5cents
What say ye? Treason? I say yea. I will volunteer to be the first witness. Anyone else?

I'll back that play
34 posted on 07/09/2002 9:55:22 PM PDT by tanka wasichu
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To: tanka wasichu
If you check the cases in the annotations to the USCA edition of the Constitution, for Art.III, sec.3, clause 1, you will see that (1) "the enemy" in that clause does not require a formal declaration of war, but it is sufficient if a foreign power (not necessarily recognized by the US govt as a bona fide govt of a bona fide country) is in "open hostility" with the US; there were scores of casualties from Desert Storm so the hostility seems plenty open to me; (2) the act of treason can be committed while the US citizen is abroad, far from any scene of battle, so it need not involve any sort of militaristic or violent act; (3) speechmaking on behalf of the enemy, even though done far outside the US, will qualify as an act of treason, as established in the cases of Axis Sally and Tokyo Rose (and in the UK in the case of Lord Haw-Haw).

Israel and England won't let Farrakhan in, are we obliged to let him back ??

35 posted on 07/10/2002 6:06:38 AM PDT by DonQ
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