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Critics of new flag heckle governor on campaign trail
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 09 June 2002 | Jim Galloway

Posted on 07/09/2002 7:56:50 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

Jekyll Island -- For two hours, the protesters waited in the sweltering heat, with little shade except that cast by a small forest of old state banners with the Confederate battle emblem.

As noon approached, a dark SUV escaped the nearby resort hotel and breezed by the dockside parking lot. It was what they'd been waiting for, and a handful rushed to the rope that separated them.

"Boo!"

"Traitor!"

Gov. Roy Barnes had been "flagged." Again.

For more than a year, this dogged band of protesters, connected by the Internet, has greeted the governor at nearly every public event in which he's participated.

The flaggings, as they're called, have become a ritual of the campaign season. Barnes hasn't been the only target. Members of the Legislature have had flags waved in their direction, too.

But it's the governor who knows many of the participants well enough to call them by name. "I wave at them," he said.

In January 2001, in a lightning maneuver, Barnes pushed through the Legislature a new state flag, one in which the Confederate emblem was shrunk to an eye-straining rectangle.

Ever since, strategists of all stripes have predicted that the issue would play a significant role in the governor's bid for re-election. Every Southern governor who has fiddled with such symbolism has run into trouble. And some experts say the new banner could still be a factor in the Georgia race.

But even "flaggers" concede that their cause has blurred over the past 18 months, complicated by the realities of Georgia's political calculus, changes within the state itself -- and by the events of Sept. 11.

"The truth of the matter is, we only have one flag. It's the flag of the United States of America. I believe I'll stick with it," Barnes said just before he left the Jekyll Island meeting of the Georgia Press Association last month.

The sound bite was fashioned spontaneously by the governor days after the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. In the months since, it has been found to work well with focus groups.

Just before Barnes spoke at the island conference, his Republican challengers sat on the same stage. All three favor a statewide referendum on the flag issue.

But none of them has advocated a return to the old flag. One, Bill Byrne, has called the old flag a "divisive symbol." He prefers the version that flew over the state Capitol before the battle emblem was added in 1956.

The news didn't go over well with the protesters outside.

"We would prefer a candidate that would be in favor of going back to the old flag," said Jack Lipthratt, 47, of Brunswick.

GOP keeps its distance|

While quite willing to flirt with the flag issue as an example of Barnes' "dictatorial" style, Republicans can't afford to embrace the flaggers too tightly.

"They want them on the bus, without driving the bus," said Merle Black, a political scientist at Emory University.

To put the GOP squarely behind Confederate symbolism "would be the worst thing the Republican Party could do," Black said. It would drive up African-American turnout in the general election, which would overwhelmingly benefit the Democratic Barnes, Black said. The gain for Republicans among white voters would be minimal, he said.

Generally, Republicans and Democrats agree on who flaggers are: Georgians who were comfortable with the South of years past, not with the one that creeps up on them today. They make up 5 percent to 10 percent of the voting population. And they are mostly white, middle-aged and male.

"A lot of the young people have given up and dropped out," said Lipthratt.

The Jekyll Island protesters numbered a dozen. One man wore a T-shirt that listed Barnes and every lawmaker who voted to change the flag. A woman wore a dress fashioned of the Confederate battle emblem.

Only two of their number voted for Barnes in 1998. In fact, Barnes strategists are counting on the fact that most of those Georgians angry with the governor over the flag wouldn't have voted for him anyway.

Kipp Pittman, 44, of Willacoochee in South Georgia, said he and his fellow protesters are trying to change that, by engaging in voter registration and encouraging lax voters to turn out. "It's going to bring in new people. That's what we're really hoping for," he said.

Perhaps for that reason, the Barnes campaign wants to avoid any escalation. The campaign contacts the State Patrol or local police and urges them to avoid confrontation. All events have been peaceful. The demonstrators say they're eager to stay within the law.

Atlanta vs. Georgia?|

Flaggings are loosely coordinated by members of three groups: the Southern Party, various chapters of the Sons of Confederate Veterans and the League of the South.

Bradford Isbell, a Griffin-area resident, is state chairman of the Southern Party. Isbell said anger over the flag change was set aside after Sept. 11. But it has rebounded, if hits on the group's Web site are any measure, he said.

Even so, there is a geographical difference in how the issue is received. "You can almost divide the state into two sections: Atlanta and the rest of Georgia," Isbell said. Slightly more than half the state's votes are in metro Atlanta's 18 counties.

One group has instituted something called Project Wave -- offering a 24-foot pole and the old flag for $33. Nearly 600 have been sold, mostly to Georgians in rural and exurban areas.

It is in vote-rich suburban Atlanta that lines begin to blur for flaggers. In mid-May, state Sen. Charles Tanksley, a Cobb County Republican and a former law partner of the governor's, was flagged for his vote to change the flag.

Seven or eight protesters had ventured into the Galleria area in southeast Cobb County, where Tanksley was holding a $500-a-head fund-raiser at the Georgian Club. The protesters were asked to leave, and they moved to the corner of U.S. 41 and Akers Mill Road.

Twenty years ago, nearly two-thirds of metro Atlanta residents were originally from Georgia. Native Georgians now number less than half. Likewise, there was a time when the Chattahoochee River served as a racial boundary. But no more.

The protesters waving the old flag and Confederate banners on U.S. 41 were in what is now Democratic territory. African-Americans and Hispanics make up a large part of the community.

Most passers-by were polite, but quite a few -- perhaps three in 10, demonstrators said -- shouted obscenities or offered middle-finger salutes.

One of the props devised by demonstrators was a black mannequin with a fuzzy wig, set in a trash can. It was a reference to Jesse Jackson. In 2000, he and other civil rights leaders agreed to put off an economic boycott of Georgia for a year while state leaders worked out the decision to change the flag.

The reference was lost on spectators who saw nothing but the mannequin beneath Confederate battle emblems.

The manager of a clothing store on the same corner called the police to have the demonstrators removed. But by the time the cops arrived, the protest was over. It was 7 p.m., time to go home.

Weeks later, it was announced the mannequin had been retired. Even flaggers have to be careful of the symbols they wield.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: confederateflag; dixielist; flagging; ga; kingroy
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King Roy has been flagged again!
1 posted on 07/09/2002 7:56:50 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: shuckmaster; 4ConservativeJustices; one2many; billbears; Constitution Day; Alas Babylon!; ...
Georgia Bump!
2 posted on 07/09/2002 7:57:13 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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Bike ride anyone!?

3 posted on 07/09/2002 7:57:52 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
Barnes will easily prevail in this matter because many GA whites have turned "anti-Confederate." They either feel embarrassed about the legacy of their Confederate ancestors, but more probably they just want their "fair share" of the subsidies that come from state and national governments.
4 posted on 07/09/2002 7:59:56 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
GA is the only state in the South that has never had a Republican governor, and Barnes knows history is on his side. People in GA prefer Democrats 4-1 over Republicans, occasionally, 3-2.
5 posted on 07/09/2002 8:01:17 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: stainlessbanner
The biggest PR problem you guys have is that many outside the South associate the Confederate flag with the KKK and, ergo, racism. You guys need to work or re-educating the public and on speaking out to disassociate yourselve from the racists.
6 posted on 07/09/2002 8:08:18 AM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: Bigg Red
That flag represents adherence to slavery. It flew over states that believed in slavery and were willing to divide this nation to keep it. It is a affront to millions of Americans.
7 posted on 07/09/2002 8:13:01 AM PDT by NationUnderGod
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To: Bigg Red
I think we are - historians are delving into black confederate ancestors. A silent majority are quietly supporting the South, her heritage, and those conservative values. Every attack by the liberals drives more folks to Dixie's side. The SCV and other organizations disassociate themselves with racism - in fact many minorities are involved in Confederate support.

Of course the liberal media loves to associate the CBF with racism - it's an uphill battle. I definetly think the key is education!

Notice the "flaggers" in the article have the CBF, Old Glory, and THE GA state flag displayed! I also found it interesting the passers-by were the most violent and obsence, NOT the flaggers!

8 posted on 07/09/2002 8:16:33 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: NationUnderGod
Thanks for supporting the South!

NationUnderGod, member since 2002-07-06

9 posted on 07/09/2002 8:18:18 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: NationUnderGod
It flew over states that believed in slavery

And the US flag flew over EVERY slave ship to touch the borders of this nation. Didn't see abe getting rid of it at the beginning of the war did you? Didn't see any northern states inviting runaway slaves over the border did you? No, as a matter of fact most of those states had laws against free blacks living in their states long before the war. By the shrill tone of the attack, I'm going to guess LLANEY?

10 posted on 07/09/2002 8:21:15 AM PDT by billbears
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To: Theodore R.
Anti-Confederate?

Why support a legacy of slaveholding losers who couldn't get it together enough to even have a standard gauge of railroad tracks, and got their heads kicked in my a bunch of blue coats from Boston and New York?

Plus, the Falcons stink.

11 posted on 07/09/2002 8:21:25 AM PDT by Vladiator
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To: Theodore R.
Barnes will easily prevail in this matter because many GA whites have turned "anti-Confederate." They either feel embarrassed about the legacy of their Confederate ancestors...

If Georgia these days is anything like North Carolina, many Georgia whites don't have Confederate ancestors and are anti-Confederate or simply don't care. That's transplanted Yankees, immigrants, and people descended from post-bellum immigrants.

12 posted on 07/09/2002 8:22:16 AM PDT by Salman
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To: stainlessbanner
As long as the GOP sees "The Flag" as their #1 electoral issue in Georgia they will remain a minority in that state.

Go ahead, run on "The Flag" and when you get your butts handed to you on election day you only have to look in the mirror to find the reason why.

13 posted on 07/09/2002 8:23:49 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Phantom Lord
Actually the GOP is distancing itself from the GA state flag issue.
14 posted on 07/09/2002 8:24:43 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: NationUnderGod
Look, lifetime slavery was a abomination. The indentured servitude it subsumed was reasonable, livable -- but that lifetime slavery made a mockery of human respect for fellow humans. It was a black man who first sued in court to make his indentured slaves, slaves for life. He won. That became a very bad thing and black African descendants suffered great prejudice and pain because of that -- the horrors of lifetime slavery telescoped onto descendants of black Africans and whites seems to have been kept out of that terrible oppression.

There is no denying that many southerners were racist -- so were many NORTHERNERS and the racism of the northerner, to my view, is the worst and continues in our day. Few men of the South to my experience fail to have great respect to any man of any race once he proves himself. Whereas in the north you will find -- especially among liberals -- a well-hidden far deeper racism where they can almost never accept a man who is of the wrong race or class no matter how well he proves himself.

But what that rebel flag stood for -- to a far far greater degree than any base racist sentiment -- was State's Rights. A noble cause.

15 posted on 07/09/2002 8:25:14 AM PDT by bvw
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To: billbears
By the shrill tone of the attack, I'm going to guess LLANEY?

Gasp! Could it be?

16 posted on 07/09/2002 8:25:34 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Bigg Red
You guys need to work or re-educating the public and on speaking out to disassociate yourselve from the racists.

When the flag was coopted by hate groups without a fight from those who claim that it is heratige and not hate they lost the rights to the flag in my opinion.

For far to long it was freely associated with the Klan and other hate groups with nary a protest. They failed to fight to keep their image of the flag and allowed it to be taken over by these groups.

They have lost their franchise through their inaction.

17 posted on 07/09/2002 8:26:15 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: NationUnderGod
The US Flag flew over the slave states far longer than the "Confederate Flag" did if were interested in any kind of historical accuracy.
18 posted on 07/09/2002 8:26:55 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: NationUnderGod
That flag represents adherence to slavery. It flew over states that believed in slavery and were willing to divide this nation to keep it. It is a affront to millions of Americans.

That's true, though of course several stars have been added to the U.S. flag since those days. But it's still Old Glory.

It's easy to see why you'd find it offensive though. I feel the same way about the Red Star on the California flag, a reminder to me of hated Communist slavery and the enemies who put two bullet holes in my body, even though the CA flag predates that foul slave state.

-archy-/-

19 posted on 07/09/2002 8:28:37 AM PDT by archy
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To: Salman
That's transplanted Yankees, immigrants, and people descended from post-bellum immigrants.

And they have caused 150 years of uninterrupted rule by democrats how?

20 posted on 07/09/2002 8:29:10 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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