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[Austin, TX] Church leaders accused in beating -- Boy in intensive care with kidney failure
The Houston Chronicle ^
| July 9, 2002
| Armando Villafranca
Posted on 07/09/2002 7:10:44 AM PDT by Illbay
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This is just disgusting beyond words. No wonder the "evangelical" movement has peaked and is now experiencing a downturn in membership.
And don't tell me this was an "isolated incident." It was a "hate crime."
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posted on
07/09/2002 7:10:44 AM PDT
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Illbay
To: Illbay
No, I take it back; it WASN'T a "hate crime." Since this pastor only wants Jesus' love to shine, it must have been a "love" crime.
Many of you wanted to know what a "love crime" would consist of. Now you know.
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posted on
07/09/2002 7:12:11 AM PDT
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Illbay
To: Illbay
If I was a relative I would be looking for a Louisville Slugger for payback.
To: MeeknMing
Texas *ping* list, please, Meek?
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posted on
07/09/2002 7:14:30 AM PDT
by
Illbay
To: Illbay
Disgusting! These two should be given the same treatment.
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posted on
07/09/2002 7:14:47 AM PDT
by
Bigg Red
To: Illbay
This is no more a "love crime" than the beaters were Christian.
To be Christian is to strive to emulate Jesus. He would not have done this.
To: Illbay
No wonder the "evangelical" movement has peaked and is now experiencing a downturn in membership. Your source for that statement?
To: Illbay
Indeed. And, I wonder how long it will take the same posters who continually bay for Islam to be destroyed as a religion to call for the wholesale rounding up and internment of every Christian in Texas.
Christianity - The Religion of Peace.
(/sarcasm)
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posted on
07/09/2002 7:15:53 AM PDT
by
strela
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
What do you think these two would tell you if you asked them "Is Jesus your personal Lord and Savior?"
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posted on
07/09/2002 7:16:05 AM PDT
by
Illbay
To: Illbay
Austin police issued arrest warrants Monday for Joshua W. Thompson, 22, of Austin, and his twin brother, Caleb D. Thompson. I have friends who were pastoring at 22, but that's still awfully young.
That aside, this was wrong from the first time they hit the boy...
To: Illbay
Once again, false pretenders to Christianity or evangelical branch thereof.
A fallen sinner can claim to be a Mormon, or a Baptist, or an angel! Doesn't mean he IS one!
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posted on
07/09/2002 7:17:01 AM PDT
by
crystalk
To: Illbay
This is just disgusting beyond words.I agree wholeheartedly.
No wonder the "evangelical" movement has peaked and is now experiencing a downturn in membership.
Non sequitur. Please check your prejudices at the door.
And don't tell me this was an "isolated incident." It was a "hate crime."
Isolated in what sense? Have these particular twins ever beaten people before? Probably they have. Do all or most or even many pastors beat their parishoners? No. Go grind your axe elsewhere.
To: crystalk
Evangelical christianity has a pretty bad record of wolves in sheeps' clothing. Oral Roberts, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, Robert Tilton, Robert W. Armstrong...
And those are just the high-profile cases.
IMO, the problem is systemic. Anyone can set themselves up as religious demagogues, and make good money doing it. In fact, that was the hit on Tilton: He decided in college to go into the "evangelical religion racket."
There's no accountability and no standards. The Bible can mean what he says it means (I imagine the Thompsons were thinking "spare the ROD and spoil the child").
It's a mass of confusion and ripe for corruption. You see it time after time after time.
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07/09/2002 7:22:15 AM PDT
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Illbay
To: Illbay
What do you think these two would tell you if you asked them "Is Jesus your personal Lord and Savior?" Who gives one thin damn about what they would SAY? Look at actions, not words my friend. Many souls can talk a fine talk, but do they walk the walk? LOVE IN ACTION! That is TRUE Christianity. :)
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07/09/2002 7:25:52 AM PDT
by
Reborn
To: Illbay
No wonder the "evangelical" movement has peaked and is now experiencing a downturn in membership.
In his upcoming book, THE NEW CHRISTIANITY, American church growth researcher and author Jim Rutz describes the astonishing increase in growth rate of evangelical Christianity.
"In the mid-80's, evangelical Christianity experienced a strong upward turn. Prior to 1985, the growthrate was 2% per year, slightly higher than the growth of the world population; today it is around 7.5% per year. If the current growth continues, the entire world would be followers of Jesus Christ in 2041..." he says.
Year Christians (millions) % Growth rate
1970 272
1985 366 2 (1970-85)
1990 445 4 (1985-90)
1995 596 6 (1990-95)
2000 836 7 (1995-2000)
2001 899 7.5 (2000+)
In comparison, the growth rates of the most important religious groups:
% Growth rate
Catholics 1.2
World population 1.3
Buddhists 1.7
Hindus 2.3
All "Christians" 2.6
Moslems 2.7
All Protestants 2.9
Evangelicals 7.5
Evangelical Christians include charismatic and Pentecostal Christians, as well as a growing number of Christians outside traditional churches."
Source
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posted on
07/09/2002 7:26:10 AM PDT
by
Pete
To: Illbay
. No wonder the "evangelical" movement has peaked and is now experiencing a downturn in membership.
This is exactly like drawing conclusions about Mormons from the behavior of the Smart family.
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07/09/2002 7:28:02 AM PDT
by
Vinomori
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To: Illbay
To me, there's a problem belonging to a congregation where the pastor is 22 years old.
To: Illbay
The poor child has kidney faillure!!! I guess that means the injuries are bad enough that his kidneys won't ever work again?
Those people need to get a taste of their own meds..by real men. True Christians are not abusive..Jesus said "let the children come to me"..
To: Illbay
This is heartbreaking...
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