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The 'right thing' tears at a family
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | July 8, 2002 | Chris McGann

Posted on 07/09/2002 12:48:48 AM PDT by Alan Chapman

Trever Palmer, 17, says he felt nervous and slightly heroic the night he picked up the phone, dialed 911 and informed the King County Sheriff's Office that his father was growing marijuana.

Minutes later, when Aaron Palmer, a Covington computer programmer, returned home from an evening of swimming laps at the local pool, deputies arrested him. They later found more than a dozen marijuana plants growing in a hidden room in the garage and booked the single father of three into the King County Jail on drug charges.

Two months later, as Trever Palmer prepares for his last year of high school, the 140-pound wrestler is still grappling with the consequences of his actions and talked about them in an interview yesterday.

Although police lauded him for doing the right thing, he says half his relatives are mad at him. He's "found out who my friends really are" while trying to avoid Kentwood High School classmates who scorned him, calling him "a weasel" and names much worse than that.

Palmer made the 911 call largely because of a lesson he learned in a Junior ROTC ethics course: "Stand up for what you believe in, don't follow the crowd and be your own person."

He still thinks he did the right thing.

"I felt like I was saving my sister and brother from this guy," he said. "You can only put up with so much."

But his family is torn apart, and his 15-year-old sister may not see the 911 call as such a brave act.

The night her father was taken away, "she really didn't speak much to me," Palmer said. "She was crying and trying to get her stuff together."

Today, she "just kind of avoids me," he said.

Palmer said his 7-year-old brother didn't know what was going on.

Palmer, who is spending part of the summer with his grandparents in Pennsylvania, plans to live with his best friend's family until he graduates and joins the Air Force. His sister and brother are staying with a cousin. Their mother, who is divorced from their father, is unemployed and "doesn't have room for them in her apartment," Palmer said.

Palmer's sister could not be reached last night, and Palmer's father did not return phone calls. Aaron Palmer, 38, was released on $5,000 bail shortly after his arrest and pleaded not guilty last week to a felony charge of drug manufacturing, the South County Journal reported. He faces up to five years in prison.

The boy said many of his relatives can't comprehend his motives for calling police.

"It sucks," Palmer said last night. "I was really hoping that they would understand. It's kind of like that hole in (me) that needs to be filled."

He has tried to explain himself to his father's parents, who "kind of understand, but they are upset."

When he called police, he said, he wasn't considering what would happen to his family. "I kind of figured that would fall into place."

What went through his mind?

"I thought: no guts, no glory," he said.

He thought marijuana growing was taking over his father's life. Instead of spending time doing things with the family, his father tended to his plants -- moving the pots around and watering. He said that on two occasions, people visited the house on account of the marijuana.

Living around drugs is "the part that no kid should have to go through, and I didn't want (my younger brother) to go through it."

There were other conflicts. He thought his father paid attention to his sister's accomplishments, while ignoring his own. And he thought his ROTC courses, which were based on Marine Corps leadership training, put him at odds with his ex-Army father "on different military perspectives."

The "stand-up" message from his ROTC course echoed in his head.

"That set it straight, why I should do it," Palmer said. "For one thing, it's illegal."

He said another factor was the emotions stirred by reading "The Red Badge of Courage" for an English class. He said he was impressed by how a character in the book, a soldier named Nick, discovered his own bravery.

"He stood up for what he believed in," Palmer said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Washington
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To: goldstategop
This kid would have done well to keep his mouth shut.
If he needs to talk to someone, he should see a therapist, not a journalist.

You're right, Dad's attorney will have a field day with this.

Sad story, everybody loses.

21 posted on 07/09/2002 1:30:59 AM PDT by pubmom
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To: Grim
Was he thinking of his dad's welfare? Does the dumbshit think that 5 years in the slammer will be good therapy for his old man?

Hey, maybe the dad was the "dumbshit" for growing illegal drugs in the first place? Did the dad ever think that there might be ramifacations to his actions?

just a thought....

22 posted on 07/09/2002 1:32:41 AM PDT by ponyespresso
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To: chance33_98
Seeing you having been a deputy, I'll have you know they had a case here in Riverside California where a mother ended up blowing up her house and killing her kids while cooking meth. It was not a pretty sight. These are home grown Super Fund dumps waiting to happen.
23 posted on 07/09/2002 1:32:45 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: pubmom
Uh huh. If he can stay awake nights wondering if he did the right thing, he shouldn't look back and second guess about it. The water's under the bridge here.
24 posted on 07/09/2002 1:34:36 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
I remember one night we had a man in that had blown his wife's face up while on coke. Did not even realize it fully until later when it wore off. We had him on suicide watch. One guy was so far gone for awhile he thought he was in his college dorm and was yelling for his mom to sebd some money for pie. He tore a toilet off the wall and smashed it up, cutting himself in the process. I remember those days when I worked in the main jail - but never fondly.
25 posted on 07/09/2002 1:36:58 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
wife's face up

She be 'wife's face OFF (with a shotgun)'
26 posted on 07/09/2002 1:37:49 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: goldstategop
They are like enemas-disgusting but sometimes neccessary.
27 posted on 07/09/2002 1:39:41 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: Alan Chapman
Doesn't sound like he realizes that it's now his duty to take care of his younger siblings.
28 posted on 07/09/2002 1:58:13 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: ponyespresso
Hey, maybe the dad was the "dumbshit" for growing illegal drugs in the first place? Did the dad ever think that there might be ramifacations to his actions?

But that would be putting the responsibility on the parent. Can't have that. (Oh, boy, am I gonna get flamed!)

29 posted on 07/09/2002 2:04:05 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: chance33_98
Just tell them your a transsexual and like gay sex, hate god, and have fun with animals.

Sounds like the kind of E-mail spam I've been getting lately!

30 posted on 07/09/2002 2:05:54 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: Alan Chapman
You don't suppose a piece or two of the puzzle is missing from this article? No...journalists wouldn't manipulate a story like this.
31 posted on 07/09/2002 2:19:25 AM PDT by aardvark1
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And this "heroic" lad differs from the mid-1930s German kids who were urged to turn their parents in to the Gestapo for being critical of Hitler at the dinner table ... exactly how?
32 posted on 07/09/2002 2:42:47 AM PDT by Greybird
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To: Greybird
And this "heroic" lad differs from the mid-1930s German kids who were urged to turn their parents in to the Gestapo for being critical of Hitler at the dinner table ... exactly how?

Because today's families are not really families. They are units of people (gay, straight, transexuals, alcoholics, etc). In the days of the Waltons this would probably not have happened, John Boy would have talked to grandpa who would have convinced dad to sell moonshine instead. Turn your parents in you say? Why not - the schools have turned kids against their parents and what they do already. I remember making ashtrays out of clay when i was in elementary, don't think that happens nowadays or the kids get told their folks are idiots and don't care about them.
33 posted on 07/09/2002 2:49:16 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: ponyespresso
Hey, maybe the dad was the "dumbshit" for growing illegal drugs in the first place? Did the dad ever think that there might be ramifacations to his actions?

Obey the law? What a concept! ;-)

34 posted on 07/09/2002 2:52:23 AM PDT by SubMareener
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To: Alan Chapman
A father who is conducting illegal activities in his home has placed his kids and wife in a position of having to cover for him, in other words, they have to lie to their friends about why they can't go in the basement, or lie about where daddy is, or what daddy is doing. It is the father who is wrong here. If he wanted to conduct illegal business, he should have kept his secret away from his family as well so they would not have to degrade themselves to protect him. The father didn't respect his family enough to place them first.

And the issue of a gun is NOT in any way comparable to the issue of drugs. We have a Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. This right is a natural right and is essential for our survival. No such right exists for 'keeping drugs.' Drugs are not considered essential for use as weapons to protect one's family, state or country.

Under no circumstances should a father place the weight of his decisions to violate the law on his family, who are too young to decide for themselves to join him and bear equal responsibility. Should a family protect their father if they know he is a thief? Should they protect him by not revealing he is a smuggler? Into child pornography? A murderer? Copying software illegally? Poaching? Getting drunk and making life hell on the family or neglecting his role as father? Should parents protect a son they know is committing a crime, 'serious' or not? Why should a kid be expected to protect a father who should know better?

The father, if he wasn't high all of the time, should have known that if he was ever caught, it might cost him time in jail or a fine. He decided that his family wasn't that important, and that it was worth the risk to 'have fun.' He didn't care about what his family would do if he was caught. He didn't care about his family's right not to be part of his crime.

The perpetrator knows what he did is illegal- it is his responsibility and his alone to stand up and take the heat- it is not his family's responsibility to keep his secret for them or live with his crime. He has NO RIGHT to expect them to keep silent for his sake, and that is exactly what he was expecting of them. He was the head of the household and so, he couldn't be disciplined within the family as a parent could do to a son. He was the head of the household and the only place the family had to turn to was the law. A doped-up dad is no father.

Drug laws may seem silly but they are constitutional until found otherwise. There is no provision in the constitution that permits you to break a law just because you consider something to be a right. If you want it to be recognized as a right, fight for it in public by holding protests and working for legislation, not in the basement of your home.

35 posted on 07/09/2002 3:25:07 AM PDT by piasa
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I can't exactly excuse this, but what if it had been azaleas or daffodils? Or rare breed dogs that sell for $3000 a pup?

Even assuming it were daffodils, the father had no right to bring his criminal activity into his home where others would be forced to choose between him and their own conscience. If you want to grow illegal 'daffodils,' buy a shed somewhere else and hide the goods there, but don't ever expect your family to play a role in your crime. They have rights too.

36 posted on 07/09/2002 3:29:14 AM PDT by piasa
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To: toenail
The 'rat' is right. If mommy wants to copy videos, she can do so without her kid's knowledge. Such a mom is setting a pretty bad example for her kids and she would deserve exactly what she gets... which in this case woould likely be nothing at all but the embarassment, which might do her some good. Other people in a household have the right to live without having to bear your responsibilities for you, without having to be perpetually careful of what they say for fear of revealing your activities.
37 posted on 07/09/2002 3:36:49 AM PDT by piasa
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To: per loin
This isn't Afghanistan. This is the United States.

38 posted on 07/09/2002 3:37:48 AM PDT by piasa
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To: Alan Chapman
I totally disagree with this kid's actions.

What he DIDN'T do, apparently, was to talk to his dad about his concerns about the pot-growing. He didn't say "Look, Dad.........I know this is your house, but it's gotta go or I'll have to do what I really don't want to do." Nope. He decided to skip the interim steps and send Dad directly to Jail; do not pass "Go", do not collect $200.

Family is family. Others here have said "well, yeah, but gee........if he was molesting a kid or running a meth lab or......"

He wasn't.

39 posted on 07/09/2002 3:45:53 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline
bingo. this kid is an idiot.
40 posted on 07/09/2002 4:05:30 AM PDT by wafflehouse
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