The 'right thing' tears at a family

Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | July 8, 2002 | Chris McGann

[RightOnline]

"How do you know what he DIDN'T do? Maybe he did try and talk to dad and dad said, "This is my house, I'll do what I want." No one has any idea what this kid did or didn't do and for how long this has been going on."

What makes you think he DID say this to his Dad? You're right........we don't know. However, nothing whatsoever was said by the kid (quoted extensively, by the way, in the piece.........thumping his little chest over his "character") about, oh, say, exercising "his final option" or anything remotely like that.

No ma'am.........this kid had his dad arrested and probably consigned to the State Pen for a number of years because he was too COWARDLY to do just that.

I'll bet money on it.

I'll reiterate my previous point: family is FAMILY, and short of murder or incest within said family, you do NOT turn your family in to the Man for otherwise (in the grand scheme of things) trivial offenses.

I've seen far too many here rant about the horrors of pot. Bulls**t, pardon my French. Let this father of seven.........count 'em..............(and who lives in a rather hoity-toity area) regale you all with tales of FAR worse abuse, witnessed on a DAILY basis, that are totally accepted: wealthy parents buying their kids $50,000 vehicles on their sixteenth birthday to assuage their guilt over spending ZERO time with them because both parents are out chasing the Yankee Buck.......letting their daughters dress like street-walkers............supporting the elimination of any mention of the Bible or Biblical principles in schools, and then wondering why little Johnnie or Suzie is a drop out at 15 or pregnant or on drugs or under arrest ("We make so much money, have so many fine things; we've given him/her/them EVERYthing.......where did we go so wrong????")............

Get the idea? And I'm just getting warmed up. Pot? Trivial in comparison (how many of YOU or your parents got snockered several times a week on Jack Daniels?)................

[Protagoras]

You only belittle yourself.

I belittle you and all those who either deal drugs or advocate turning on their families.

I've managed to change my opinion about a number of issues on this forum, but the skill and persuasive powers of the Libertarians leave a lot to be desired.

Your opinion is irrelevant. You are a criminal. You have nothing to say about the drug war as long as you haven't paid the price you advocate for other criminals who have done precisely as you have done. You have no standing.

I'd like to see you try to answer this argument without resorting to personal attacks, but are you capable?

What argument?

[trussell]

You accused me of calling you names in post #210. Are you precognitive?

Post 210 *Are you capable of posting something without it containing the word "despicable", or calling people by some other demeaning name?

I did not accuse you of calling me names, I accused you of calling people by some other demeaning name.

And you get mad at everyone else if we do not state exact facts and statements. Talk about being hypocritical.

[trussell]

PING

[~EagleNebula~]

As noble a youth as the young Afghani, turning his mother in to the taliban for secretly having a tube of lipstick in the house.

This is hardly the same thing!

[~EagleNebula~]

I think it is interesting to read you calling a 17 yr old, law abiding citizen a "rat". How are you bringing up your children? Do you want them to be law abiding citizens??

The young man never got into what the home life was like....What kind of a "home life" do you imagine he had? It certainly wasn't like the Cleaver household!!

He did what was right, and you are spitting on him with your words!?? Amazing! There are many teens these days that don't frankly give a D*** about anyone or anything. Here is one who cares!

From what you wrote, it makes me wonder if maybe you are angry and defensive for some reason?? Hmmm? Interesting take!!

[~EagleNebula~]

Post 16 ROFLMBO

So the right thing has turned into a sibling rivalry? LOL

[~EagleNebula~]

"sad story. everybody loses"

I don't understand some of you people.....anyone know what it is like to live in a household of drug users? growers? Is it possible this teen was thinking about how much longer his younger siblings would have to live in this environment, and how it could progressively get worse?? Everybody WAS losing, now maybe some of them will have a chance? YES? NO?

Or am I wearing rose colored glasses???? Last I checked, they weren't.

[~EagleNebula~]

Hey, maybe the dad was the "dumbshit" for growing illegal drugs in the first place? Did the dad ever think that there might be ramifacations to his actions?

Ah! Do we teach our youth about accountability and responsibility and respect? BINGO! Dad is RESPONSIBLE for his actions!!! Dad is being held ACCOUNTABLE!!! The son showed RESPECT for the law.

[~EagleNebula~]

And this "heroic" lad differs from the mid-1930s German kids who were urged to turn their parents in to the Gestapo for being critical of Hitler at the dinner table ... exactly how?

This is truly a disproportionate statement. Get real!! Do you then find a nazi under every rock?

[~EagleNebula~]

BRAVO! for post #35

[Texas Mom]

I really couldn't care less what most of you think. I don't use popularity as a means to determine which positions to take.

Good... glad to hear it.

[~EagleNebula~]

I can't understand how this kid didn't see it coming. He's doomed his father to misery and poverty. He's opened his father's assets to seizure (theft) by the state. Of course his relatives hate him. If a relative of mine turned in her father for mere drug crimes, that person would be on the outside of the family, looking in with her nose pressed up against the glass!

Honestly! I cannot understand this mindset in the least!! The father is RESPONSIBLE for his actions, and being held ACCOUNTABLE!!! No wonder we have teens and young adults who think they can do anything they want, where and when, with no respect to other people, their property, or the law!!! If there are "adults" with this kind of mindset quoted here, I shouldn't wonder that I am daily encountering teens and young adults with this kind of thought pattern and mindset as well!

Just don't blame it on the schools! If this is the mindset you raised your kids with, ask yourself what propogated vandalism, thievery, etc. Murder? What is that but a disrespect for another's life? See my point???

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

"SOILENT GREEN IS PEOPLE"

[~EagleNebula~]

Then you start a reveloution, kill all the people in power, and create a new perfect order where everyone gets high :)

Now, why didn't someone think of that before??? /sarcasm

[pubmom]

Sometimes it's unwise to ask others such pointed personal questions on a public forum, the answer may not be one you'd expect.

I have no idea what this young man and his family have endured. Reporting dad for his illegal growing habit should have included at least an outline or a plan for what would happen next. Was there no one else he could turn to for help? Could he have not tried some type of intervention program? There are several other ways he could have gotten help for his dad. I'm curious why he chose this course of action, it is the most drastic step he could have taken. Hauling dad off to the concrete hotel should have been the last resort. I agree that if he was openly dealing and using in front of the children, the young man was justified.

I sincerely hope things turn out best for all concerned, including the father.

[chance33_98]

And I hope you understood mine was sarcastic as well :)

[chance33_98]

Detectives Find Children In Dirty Crack House (2 yr old and 8 mo old and 6 foot snake running loose)

Wish these kids were old enough to turn the folks in :)