The 'right thing' tears at a family

Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | July 8, 2002 | Chris McGann

[wardaddy]

Copperhead Road....by Steve Earle. It's a favorite of mine actually. Steve Earle is a good roots Country/Rock/Rockabilly artist...with some Irish Pipes Band influence as well. He uses Irish Pipes on that song. Anyhow it's about Johnson County Tenn. The extreme NE corner county of Appalachin Tenn. at the NC and VA intersection. Our family mountain home is right across the state line in Avery County NC at Grandfather MT.

"Sherriff come a calling in the middle of the night, heard momma cryin in the middle of the night, he was headed down to Knoxville with the weekly load..you could smell the fire burnin down Copperhead Road"

"I learnt a thing or too from "Charlie" don't you know...you better stay away from Copperhead Road"...dadadadaddump...dadadadadump......one of the few songs I basically have memorized. It's a favorite singalong with my girls on road trips...LOL

[Protagoras]

No, divorced because he ran off with the kids last November, no note, no calls.

Maybe he didn't want to be married to someone who would turn their own children over to the thugs.

[Travis McGee]

That is a way cool song! Does it ever get air play any more? I've never heard it in Kali.

[Alan Chapman]

You LIbertarians just can't accept the fact that most of us reject your desires for decriminialization of illegal drugs, can you.

I really couldn't care less what most of you think. I don't use popularity as a means to determine which positions to take.

[Protagoras]

I really couldn't care less what most of you think. I don't use popularity as a means to determine which positions to take.

Be careful Alan, you and I might end up tied for last in the "most popular Freeper" contest. :-)

[no-s]

Civil disobedience is fine, just don't complain about going to jail over it. I think we have lost freedoms in this country and we need to take back those we have lost - I just advocate using the system. Work hard to convince people, get a second job and pool money with other people with a similar interest - if it is something you want badly enough you will put all your effort into it. The basic premise we all seem to have is that the government should leave us alone for the most part.

Why should I have to waste my time beating the gov't off with a stick, especially when it has so much power it ignores the itch? Let's face it, as presently embodied the state has so much power and resources it can shrug off any challenge. Furthermore the knobs of the state are firmly in the hands of those who care only about power, and will use that power to fight off any challenger. Work within the system? The system is corrupt and corrupting. Your best bet is to avoid the attention of the state, and if you're big enough, find some way to distract the powerful so as to minimise the shakedown. Those in charge only have to placate the mob long enough to enslave 'em, and then avoid a slave revolt.

Of course, I live in California, so I may be somewhat biased about this.

[wardaddy]

Make that "smell the whiskey burning down Copperhead Road"...sorry.

[John O]

And exactly where in the constitution are illegal plants mentioned?

BINGO! They're not. The founding fathers thought the right of gun ownership was so important that they expressly guarenteed it. The right to grow hazardous plants didn't even deserve a thought.

GSA(P)

[Protagoras]

The right to grow hazardous plants didn't even deserve a thought.

Nice try, but plants weren't concidered hazardous in 1781. They were right btw, they aren't.

[John O]

They were right btw, they aren't.

You have every right to your own opinion.

GSA(P)

[Marysecretary]

BOTH parents are important, no doubt about that. But it's been shown that if fathers abdicate their responsibilities and are NOT good examples, the children suffer. Ask most prisoners how their dads were. You will see that many of them, as high as 98% in some polls, were abandoned or had fathers who were negligent. I don't mean to downgrade the mother's role at all, but in this particular article it's the father who is the topic, not the mother.

[Protagoras]

You have every right to your own opinion.

Very big of you to grant me that. It doesn't change the first part.

[FreeTally]

The right to grow hazardous plants didn't even deserve a thought.

Hazardous? What the hell are you talking about?

And you are right, the right didn't even deserve a thought -because the FF thought it was common sense that no government had the power to prohibit plants - especially ones they harvested, burned and inhaled.

But go on living your "reefer madness" dreams.

[Marysecretary]

I'm a stubborn Norwegian so we never do give up, give in or give out. Well, mostly (smile). I still have faith in humankind because I do believe we're mostly kind and considerate of one another, even generous.

[Marysecretary]

Oh, tommy boy, dry up. You're getting boring.

[Protagoras]

Oh, tommy boy, dry up. You're getting boring.

Glad to know that you found me interesting at one time. :-)

You were never anything but boring.

[stands2reason]

You made it clear that you see nothing wrong with drug dealing despite your new found morals.

Complete and utter bulls*it! I said in my last post I KNOW that doing drugs and dealing is wrong!

You wear your drug dealing as a badge of honor, mentioning it at every opportunity.

Wow. You've really piled it high, this time. I mentioned it for the FIRST time on this thread after thousands of posts I have made on this forum only to prove a point. I'm saying if you get busted, even by the people you're SUPPOSED to take care of, it's your own fault. You are Mr. Moral? Pah-leeeease. You think drugs should be legal, but dealers should turn themselves in to be arrested. But if a kid's father deals drugs or steals cars or rapes children, he better just deal with it, or "ask" his father to stop, because going to the police makes him scum. You are totally twisted.

[stands2reason]

You certainly wouldn't cut the father any slack. He's the scum of the Earth, remember?

[Marysecretary]

Well, since you don't really know me or know how interesting I can be, I will not make any further comment on your statement. I'm really not a bore because I'm loved.

[stands2reason]

I've been reading this thread and wondering...can you make a point without stooping to personal attacks? I've yet to see you restrain yourself. But I bet you think that makes you a better debater, right? You seem to think it makes you stand out as better than others on this forum. It doesn't. You only belittle yourself. I've managed to change my opinion about a number of issues on this forum, but the skill and persuasive powers of the Libertarians leave a lot to be desired. You fail. I doubt I'm the only one you fail with. If you think you're changing minds and teaching people on this forum, you're wrong. Don't pretend you're not here to do that, unless you like being a tiny minority.

I'd like to see you try to answer this argument without resorting to personal attacks, but are you capable?